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Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Slight revamp and expansion of list of soon-to-be announced temples

Based on the most excellent feedback I am getting on all these lists, I have made changes, corrections, and additions. Hope you enjoy reading this list as much as I enjoyed making it. Let me know what you think. Before posting the list, I notice that a lot of people were suggesting temples that were already on the list, either as an official choice or an alternative location. Please remember to look in both places to ensure your idea has not already been covered. As always, feedback is most gratefully appreciated and will be most warmly welcomed. Here's the list:

Temple Predictions:
3+ temples announced in any of the following cities and states:
Nicaragua (Managua); Papua New Guinea (Port Moresby); Arkansas (Bentonville); Puerto Rico (San Juan); Kiribati (Tarawa); Sierra Leone (Freetown); Uganda (Kampala); Kenya (Nairobi); Montana (Missoula); Utah (Tooele/Layton/Lehi/Kaysville); Hungary (Budapest); Nigeria (Lagos); Bolivia (La Paz); South Dakota (Rapid City); Mexico (Puebla); Chile (Valparaiso); Idaho (Pocatello); New Zealand (Auckland); Philippines (Davao); Scotland (Edinburgh); Virginia (Richmond); Mongolia (Ulaanbaatar); Spain (Barcelona); Wyoming (Cody); Brazil (Brasilia/Belo Horizonte); Argentina (Neuquen); Ghana (Kumasi).

Alternative locations: Ivory Coast (2nd and possibly 3rd temples; may be needed due to extreme growth in the area); Kasai or other DR Congo region (Kasai proposed in 2016 by Neil L. Andersen; may be needed due to extreme growth in the area); Vilnius Lithuania (proposed in 1993 by M. Russell Ballard); Maracaibo Venezuela (proposed in 1999 by Gordon B. Hinckley); Singapore (proposed in 2000 by Gordon B. Hinckley); 2nd Southwest Salt Lake Valley temple (proposed in 2005 by Gordon B. Hinckley; more than likely because land has already been purchased for it); alternate dark-horse locations: Orem/Heber/Price Utah; Maputo Mozambique, Oslo Norway; Antananarivo Madagascar . NOTE that the Nairobi Kenya temple was proposed in 1999 by Gordon B. Hinckley and that the Managua Nicaragua temple was proposed by Russell M. Nelson in 2012.

18 comments:

  1. I continue to think that with the Saratoga Springs/Eagle Mountain/Lehi Jordan River areas growing at a rate of 1 stake per year that it is a higher contender for a temple than Lehi. Especially since the church still owns farm land in the area. Though I will say if a temple was built in Lehi instead that it would probably be in the Northern Lehi area near 2100 North. Currently there are 15 stakes in the SS/EM area with more ready to split. I include the two Lehi Jordan River/Jordan Willow Stakes since they are close by.

    I would think a smaller temple in Price UT would happen before Mapleton due to distance and canyon driving.

    If Tooele gets a temple that would take a lot away from the Salt Lake district that Sandy probably would not get one soon especially being so close to Draper.

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    1. You certainly have a right to your own opinion. Because my wife is from Lehi and we have first-hand knowledge of the growth and development happening there, particularly due to the increase in the number of LDS families (and that's from extensive development of my father-in-law's wide-spread property), I see Lehi as being more likely than Saratoga Springs or Eagle Mountain. However, I do not have firsthand knowledge about the growth of Saratoga Springs or Eagle Mountain like I do with Lehi, so if what you say is true, that makes Saratoga Springs and/or Eagle Mountain a high contender for a temple. For the moment though, because of my firsthand knowledge of growth in the Lehi area, I see Lehi as the most likely of the three, particularly since, at this time, Lehi has more than twice the number of stakes than EM and SS combined. so for the moment, I think I will leave Lehi as an official prediction with SS and EM listed as possible alternates.

      Price may be a stronger contender than Mapleton. Price has four stakes to Mapleton's 3. I will add both as possible contenders for a temple.

      Thanks for the comment. You've given me much food for thought.

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  3. A temple in the Lehi area is likely due to the rapid growth (both LDS and general populations), heavy use in the surrounding temple districts, and the closeness to major transportation corridors (I-15, Redwood Road and Mountain View). The SS/EM areas are growing, but the temple would not be as centrally located to the potential temple district.

    Tooele and Layton/Kaysville are also high on the list candidates for temples in Utah due to population growth and number of stakes.

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    1. I agree. Thank you for that assessment of Lehi as a potential temple site. I believe that SS/EM may be being pushed due to other people's personal ties to the area, but as both you and I observed in our above comments, there are good statistical reasons for suggesting a possible temple in Lehi. I just remembered that the last few times Matthew Martinich has predicted a Utah temple, Lehi and Layton have been at the top of the list. That's why they're so high a priority on my list. Thanks for the comment.

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  4. I have revamped the list slightly. I have downgraded Orem to be a dark horse choice for the moment. While I would love to see one here since I'm living in Orem now, I can't allow my personal preference to taint my predictions, and with one in American Fork, two in Provo, and the potential one in Lehi, an Orem temple may be a long ways away. I have also eliminated SS and EM as dark horse choices because I didn't like the way people were pushing me to include that against my better judgement and the given statistics. I have added Kaysville to my list of Utah temples that might be announced soon. I welcome the continued feedback. Thanks.

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  6. I think Lehi is more centrally located to benefit the mist stakes. But SS or EM could be possible as alternates if the temple was placed at the far end of the potential district.

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    1. Most not mist

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    3. Of the three, I favor Lehi statistically speaking (and not just due to personal preference of it being my wife's hometown). SS and EM are more dark horse choices. If growth in both cities continue, I could see a temple in either or both. For the moment though, Lehi seems to be the most likely possibility, and thus made my list. If we add to that the fact of a Lehi temple being one of Matthew Martinich's stated guesses for a temple, we've got a pretty good reason to suppose that a Lehi temple is just a matter of time.

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    4. Before Payson, Spanish Fork was on the list. Could the same be done between Lehi and EM/SS? I feel more confident with Lehi. I had Brigham City on my list before it was announced and Matt didnt think that was likely.

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    5. I'm not sure what you're proposing. Are you suggesting I put Spanish Fork and EM/SS on my list? Or are you referring to a Matthew Martinich list? Of the next most likely temple possibilities, I feel Lehi is the most likely candidate for the next Utah County temple. Does that answer your question?

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  7. There are 13 stakes in SS/EM and 14 in Lehi but honestly I would be trolled with a temple in either area due to My Timp being so busy at certain times. I have had to wait in line in the hall just to get into the chapel and then wait to get into a session. I didn't mean to come across pushy. Just stating my reasoning. If the temple was in Lehi, where do you think it would be located? I keep thinking near 2100 North but was wondering your thoughts. Thanks for your blog.

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    1. Really? 13 stakes in EM/SS? Where are you getting that number? I am basing my claim of "twice as many stakes in Lehi as in EM and SS combined" based on the latest information on Rick Satterfield's most excellent LDS Church Temples site. Let me just double-check my figures.

      Okay. I must have been mistaken. It actually shows 6 for SS, 7 for EM, and 14 for Lehi. So I guess I will amend my statement to say that, for me, a Lehi temple is more likely because it individually has more stakes than SS and EM combined. Admittedly, I'm not as "up-to-date" on my Utah geography as I should be, and this is especially true of Lehi, of which I have only seen certain parts due to where my wife's family resides.

      I do know that my father-in-law's land is in the northern part of Lehi, and his particular land plot has been developed and sub-divided into between 6-12 lots, which in turn boosts the population in that part of the city. particularly the Church membership. With what little I do know of the growth in Lehi, which I have followed as a matter of interest to my wife, I asked her for her opinion on the site you mentioned.

      She says she doesn't know where a Lehi temple would be located, but it would likely be round about her dad's land, unless they were to subdivide a large property where one of the Lehi chapels sits in order to accommodate a temple. My brother-in-law is actually living on the corner of 2100 North and Center Street, and my other brother-in-law lives in what used to be the house of my parents-in-law while her dad is located a short distance from that house in a new place of his own. It was my father-in-law that negotiated the deal with his land, and in so many ways, he got the short end of the stick. But that is a fine area, and would probably be one of the best round-about places for a temple.

      Thanks for your feedback. And I fully agree: the Mount Timpanogos temple is probably the next busiest temple in Utah County after Provo. In this statement, I also have firsthand knowledge. I worked there for six years. In fact, that's where I served part of my part-time mission and is also where I met and married my wife.

      In the six years I worked there, during two shifts per week averaging 6 hours per shift, I was serving a rough average of 100 patrons per week, and that was on the slow weeks. I vividly recall staying VERY late on a Friday night to help the masses of Saints that would flock to the temple. Since I know Lehi as being the other major city in the Mount Timp. temple district, I am suggesting that site over one in SS or EM. I will monitor Church growth in the area and perhaps add a temple for EM/SS in a future prediction. For now, I favor Lehi. Thanks for your thoughtful feedback.

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