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Temples which will close for an extended period of time (rather
than a renovation) in 2019:
Calgary Alberta: Tuesday April 16-Monday November 4
(roughly 29 weeks)
Los Angeles California: Tuesday June 25-Monday September
30 (roughly 14 weeks)
Manhattan New York: Tuesday July 23-Monday October 28
(roughly 14 weeks)
Denver Colorado: Tuesday July 2-Monday September 23
(roughly 12 weeks)
Chicago Illinois: Sunday June 23-Monday September 2
(roughly 10 weeks)
Aba Nigeria: Monday August 26-Monday November 4 (10
weeks)
Accra Ghana: Monday September 2-Thursday October 31 (8.5
weeks)
Panama City Panama: Monday, February 18, 2019-Monday,
April 15, 2019 (roughly 8 weeks)
Provo Utah: Monday July 1-Monday August 12 (6 weeks)
San Diego California: Monday September 30-Monday November
11 (6 weeks)
Cochabamba Bolivia: Tuesday April 9-Monday May 20 (roughly
6 weeks)
Columbia South Carolina: Tuesday September 10-Monday
October 21 (roughly 6 weeks)
Dallas Texas: Tuesday October 1-Monday November 11 (roughly
6 weeks)
London England: Tuesday August 6-Monday September 16
(roughly 6 weeks)
Medford Oregon: Tuesday July 23-Monday September 2
(roughly 6 weeks)
Taipei Taiwan: Tuesday September 17-Monday October 28
(roughly 6 weeks)
Albuquerque New Mexico: Tuesday October 1-Monday November
4 (roughly 5 weeks)
Las Vegas Nevada: Monday July 8-Monday August 5 (4 weeks)
Seattle Washington: Monday February 11-Monday March 11 (4
weeks)
Bismarck North Dakota: Tuesday August 20-Monday September
16 (roughly 4 weeks)
Porto Alegre Brazil: Tuesday July 2-Monday July 29
(roughly 4 weeks)
St. Louis Missouri: Tuesday, November 5, 2019-Monday,
December 2, 2019 (roughly 4 weeks)
Sydney Australia: Tuesday, November 5, 2019-Monday,
December 2, 2019 (roughly 4 weeks)
Trujillo Peru: Tuesday, September 17, 2019-Monday,
October 14, 2019 (roughly 4 weeks)
Veracruz Mexico: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - Monday,
October 14, 2019 (roughly 4 weeks)
Hello again, everyone! Within the last 12 hours, two additional updates have been reported for temples undergoing renovation. At the Oakland California Temple, plants are being added to the flowerbeds on the temple grounds.
ReplyDeleteAnd at the Hamilton New Zealand Temple, the existing patron accommodation facilities have been demolished, and the grounds are being prepared for the replacement facility that will be built for that same purpose. I continue to monitor all Church news and temple updates and will bring word of those to you all here as I receive them, either in the comments of existing posts, or in brand new content. Thanks again, everyone!
Also, a report which came in on the Urdaneta Philippines Temple notes that, while full-scale construction is pending, the Church is seeking construction workers for that project. With the date change that just occurred, it is now Thursday, so I am anticipating (or at least hoping) that a major Church news item or temple development will be announced before the week ends. If I get word of any such developments, I will pass those reports/updates on to you all here as I receive them. Again, I thank you all for your ongoing interest and support.
ReplyDeleteJames,
ReplyDeleteYour Portland information seems off
Portland Oregon: Tuesday January 29-Monday February 18 (roughly 8 weeks)
Michael
Michael, thanks for taking time to comment. You are right. There is no error in the relevant dates, which can be confirmed by the following webpage:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.lds.org/temples/details/portland-oregon-temple?lang=eng
But it appears that the error to which you are referring is the length of that closure, which is definitely not 8 weeks. It is actually one day shy of 3 weeks. And since I made a choice to not mention closures less than 4 weeks long, for the sake of simplicity, I will remove Portland from this list.
For the information of all who are interested, while I continue to work on providing some additional thoughts about the temple-building program of the Church, and while I am also working as I can on correcting and fine-tuning my list of prospective cities which seem most likely to have a temple announced during the upcoming April General Conference, I am also putting in preliminary work on a list of new or currently-operating temples for which a new president may be announced this year. Stay tuned for all of that. Additionally, if any major Church news or temple developments are reported, I will be sure to pass those along as well. My thanks again to you, Michael, for taking time to let me know about my error, and to all my readers for your ongoing interest and support.
On potential temples, look at the Phoenix metro. Even with Mesa being renovated they only have three with one being on the smaller side. A temple on the far west side seems practical, and a rumor has surfaced that they have land for one in the far east of the metro roughly Ironwood and the future SR-24 freeway, they may begin construction of that to just one mole short of that site this year.
ReplyDeleteThree temples and one of them being smaller seems like not enough for 265k members, regular move-ins are also coming there, plus reasonably good success with missionary efforts, and the area temple and family history consultants are really proactive about things in the Phoenix area. It may not be this year that something happens but as family history efforts and other related things happen, we could well see another one or two.
Hello, James Anderson. Thank you, as always, for taking time to comment. Arizona and other states, both within the "Mormon corridor" and outside of it, are a somewhat tricky case. As I have mentioned previously in the recent past, I have not yet found anything which would seem to indicate that more than one temple would be announced at the same time for any state (within the US) or nation (outside the US). If, as I anticipate, the preliminary steps have been taken to enable President Nelson to personally detail his plans and the timing thereof during the April General Conference, there will likely be a need for all of us to expand our lists of possibilities.
DeleteUntil that time, since I am somewhat flying blindly and largely without personal navigation from the prophet towards the ultimate destination of the endgame goal, I am continuing to weigh the merits of every location on my list (including those suggested to me) against what I know from my own research or the opinion of others, but also against what I don't know.
With that in mind, depending on whether those plans are outlined and detailed by President Nelson in the April General Conference, I have made a general rule for myself to not list more than one candidate for any state or nation, except for when there are two locations that might be too close to call.
So my task will be to weigh the feedback that you, someone I trust completely on this matter, against what I know, have heard, or been told about the likelihood that Flagstaff seems to be the next Arizona city due for a temple.
But more than that, last year, at the dedication of the Tucson Arizona Temple, Elder Larry Y. Wilson said that that temple's dedication had Arizona well stocked-up on temples for the foreseeable future. Do I think his assessment might have changed since then, based on what he now knows about President Nelson's temple plans? Seems to be a reasonable assumption.
With that noted, regarding what you said above, do you have any indication as to which city in the Phoenix metro area has a reasonable chance of getting a temple in the near future? If I have an exact location to look at, that may aid in my research on this question. As always, thank you, James Anderson, for taking time to comment.
Elder Wilson said that six months before President Monson died, so he was operating on what was in place then, but I doubt that has changed much for the immediate future.
ReplyDeleteThe Gilbert Temple is off the 202 at Pecos and Greenfield. The rumored future site is near the SR-24 alignment. That branches off the 202 at where that turns north to connect to and cross US-60, and today it ends at Ellsworth, and when built will go almost directly east from there, the construction will be to Signal Butte, and Ironwood is one mile east of that, and the propert is reasonably close to that intersection.
Growth south of there in Queen Creek is such that five buildings were approved for construction at roughly the same time around a year ago, I would not put one on the 'this conference' list but probably a couple more years out, when Mesa reopens we will have a better idea how busy Gilbert and Phoenix really are.
The temple in Phoenix is about 30k square feet, so a possible southwest valley temple might be coming also, as that area is getting its freeway network in the mid-term, and building a new freeway in a less-developed area or even talking about one triggers development. But the bulk of the population member-wise skews east so anything needed in the Phoenix area would first go to that east end, again depending on how things settle after Mesa reopens.
James Anderson, thank you for taking time to comment. I have been embroiled within the last couple of hours in some controversy surrounding comments I made recently on the Church growth blog, which is why I did not see your comment before now.
DeleteSo would the site you mentioned be within the boundaries of any of the Queen Creek stakes? I have looked at Queen Creek for the future, but perhaps that is not as immediate a prospect as various sources indicate Flagstaff might be.
I know one difficulty I have faced is sorting the total locations I have into those most likely to be announced during the next General Conference first, then those that are likely at some point (which can be reanalyzed and reprioritized once more information is available on the extent of President Nelson's plans, and finally those that may be announced at some point, which I will reprioritize to either of the other two lists once my own study or something someone else says makes such locations easier to place elsewhere.
Your point about Elder Wilson's statement as it relates to Arizona temples in the future is likewise well-taken. But if the intent to increase the number of temples ten-fold is any indication, then I think we are almost certain to see more temples announced in Arizona as those plans unfold.
The question is, is the prospect of any other Arizona temple locations as imminently likely or vitally important as other prospects? I know that I haven't done a grand prioritization of my list for next April, but I am sure the prospect of Flagstaff would be much further down than any others. I will keep Arizona in mind for sure when I continue to process of reprioritizing my list for next April. Thanks again, James Anderson!
The Queen Creek area appears to be about or south of that new airport that has its runways by where SR-24 splits of 202, and there is not much there now east of the airport but the bulk of the development appears to be largely near or south of Ocotillo, so the Ironwood north of SR-24 which will run close to Ray Rd. may also be a few years off. But with such a large number of members in the Phoenix metro, there is hte distinct possibility of something happening somewhere.
DeleteMesa alone without the other eastern cities there is larger than St. Louis, and it has grown since I heard that, and the other cities are growing too. In Good traffic on a freeway, you can get to downtown Phoenix from Apache Junction in an hour, but one false move by some driver and that can be messed up.
James Anderson, I appreciate your ongoing dialogue about Arizona, along with your continued efforts to clear up my confusion. I looked for and couldn't seem to find anywhere in our dialogue on this thread where you mentioned any specific location you might be watching in the metro area in question in terms of a future temple. I know that I have a temple for Flagstaff in with my current April 2019 temple predictions, and I will also be watching for any news on Queen Creek, but I'd be interested in your specific thoughts on where the next new temple in the Phoenix metro area is likely to be built. I apologize if you already detailed that. I have been feeling very unwell today, so I am not at my best level in terms of retaining such information. I apologize for that, and want to thank you again for your willingness to dialogue with me back-and-forth on this and all other subjects. It's always a pleasure to hear from you.
DeleteIt is taking a bit between us to sort Arizona out, but in the meantime, here is where you can see what could be a significant meeting on family history and temple work in less than two weeks, three members of the Twelve will be speaking.
Deletehttps://www.lds.org/family-history?lang=eng
I apologize for that, James Anderson. As I said, I've not been feeling well. I had been aware of the 3 apostles set to speak at the RootsTech Leadership Session. I know that Elder Bednar heads up the Temple and Family History Executive Council now (having taken over that assignment from Elder Cook, who now heads up the Priesthood and Family Executive Council), and that Elder Renlund had been the other apostle assigned to that Council, so with the knowledge that he and his senior apostolic seatmate Elder Stevenson will also be speaking at that session, it is not that hard to surmise that these 3 apostles are all assigned to that Council now. That is not surprising. The Church last year expanded the Church Board of Education and Boards of Trustees to include 4 members of the Twelve, among other leaders who had not been included on that Board previously, and the membership of the Missionary Executive Council similarly expanded last year as well to include 4 members of the Twelve. So the idea that a minimum of 3 apostles serve on the Temple and Family History Executive Council makes sense in that regard as well.
DeleteIn relation to Arizona, I know my confusion would likely be eliminated completely if you were to specifically spell out (either for the first time or as a repeat of already-offered information) the area of Arizona to which you are referring. I apologize for needing you to do so, but in addition to not feeling well, I am not great at geographical analysis, which means that I won't know what you are talking about If you continue to refer to state roads, interstates, or intersections, I will continue to have a hard time sorting out what you are talking about. That is because I don't even do well with interstates, directions, intersections, or street names here in Utah (as my wife could tell you, since I almost always get us lost while trying to provide navigation directions for her to get us somewhere here in Utah that we have never gone before).
I apologize for my geographical incompetence, but I am stuck dealing with that issue for now, which even on my best days, can have me easily confused. So the more specific you can be, the easier it will be for me to get a sense of the area to which you have alluded. Thank you, James Anderson, as always, for taking time to comment.