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Some Thoughts on President Nelson's Remarkable Statement About the October 2019 General Conference

Hello again, everyone! While we wait for coverage to be provided on the Port-au-Prince Haiti Youth Devotional, I wanted to post my take on the remarkable statement President Nelson made in relation to the October 2019 General Conference. First of all, let's review the statement in question. In an article covering the devotional at which he, his wife, Elder Cook, his wife, and Brazil Area President Elder Marcos A. Aidukaitis and his wife, addressed all missionaries serving throughout Brazil (with the broadcast originating from Brasilia and being carried to missionaries serving throughout the nation), the Newsroom quoted President Nelson as saying the following to news media:

“There are exciting things ahead. This work is moving forward at an accelerated pace. I can just hardly wait to bounce out of bed each morning and see what the day will bring. We invite all people to come unto Christ, to become more like Him, to experience the joyous blessings of the Holy Temple and to have eternal life,”  He then went on to say that more temples and other announcements were coming for the October General Conference.

A few takeaways from that statement. In the first two General Conferences in which President Nelson became Church President, he announced quite a few changes. In April 2018, the restructuring of priesthood quorums (with High Priest groups being discontinued at the ward level and the membership thereof being merged into the Elders' Quorum,. and the Stake High Priests' Quorum now comprised of current Stake Presidency members, the current members of the Stake High Council, and current Ward Bishopric members) and the retirement of home and visiting teaching programs in favor of ministering were announced.

In October last year, the Church saw the introduction of the Come Follow Me expanded curriculum (which would implemented a home-centered, Church-supported study program) resulted in the transition from the 3-hour Church block to a consolidated 2-hour Church block, with Sunday School and Priesthood/Relief Society being held alternately. And throughout 2018, President Nelson announced a whopping 19 new temples, 7 in April and 12 more in October, which was an unprecedented number of temples to be announced within the first year of a new Church President's prophetic administration.

With all that had been heard about President Nelson's ambitious temple-building plans, many people (myself included) went into the April 2019 General Conference convinced that more changes were coming, including President Nelson detailing the extent and timing of his temple-expansion plans in full, and announcing a mass number of new temples to accomplish his intended goal (which, as verified by most of his apostolic colleagues, is apparently a ten-fold increase in the number of temples).

Although 8 more temples were announced, no other major announcements were made, and instead, the transformative announcements were made between the October 2018 and April 2019 General Conferences, and last General Conference instead represented constancy in the midst of great change. the opportunity for the Church to take the proverbial deep breath and focus instead on the important gospel topics which were covered therein.

So that brings us to the upcoming October 2019 General Conference, and President Nelson's remarkable statement about it. What stood out to me most about what he said was that, in addition to more new temples, other announcements would be made. In other words, the term is not singular, but plural. That said, let me go officially on record as stating that, in my personal opinion, I do not see a massive number of new temples being announced, nor do I anticipate that President Nelson will detail the extent and timing of his plans to expand the number of temples tenfold.

To be perfectly transparent, I would be elated if he does explain his plans and announce dozens of new temples in the process. But I know that there were some who were disappointed when only 8 new temples were announced last April, and I certainly wouldn't want to build up hype for a mass number of announcements in that respect, only to have some be disappointed if and when a considerably lesser number of temples are announced. That is why I have advanced the mertis of 14-16 new temples as being a more reasonable estimate.

Depending on what is actually announced, there will need to be some focus on those announcements, rather than just solely having a focus on his temple expansion plans. So what might be ahead for the future, if not a massive change affecting the temple construction program of the Church? Let's look at that next. To begin with, Matthew Martinich, widely respected as an expert on matters relating to the growth of the Church, noted on his blog earlier this afternoon that he was anticipating some type of change in the missionary program to be announced as well, based on the recent release of a new missionary handbook.

He had previously provided extensive analysis regarding the kind of reforms he was specifically anticipating, based on the reports he had received of wide-spread issues with various aspects of that program and those efforts as they currently exist, stand, and are established. I would certainly anticipate that such an announcement will be made, because Matt usually knows what he is talking about when it comes to issues such as that. At the same time, given the pluralization of the term announcements, I am not entirely convinced at this time that only new temples and changes to the missionary program are on the immediate horizon. So what else could be coming down the pike? I have some theories on that. There could potentially be updates on the process and anticipated timing for the publication of the revised and unified editions of the hymnbook and children's songbook.

But given the announcement earlier this year that the Africa Southeast Area would be divided beginning next August, I think it is possible there could be further area changes announced in General Conference. But above and beyond that, it would not shock me at all to see some type of restructuring of the Area Seventies Quorums as presently constituted. Without knowing exactly how the releases of any current Area Seventies may impact the numbers in each of those Quorums, here's what I know in that respect: When the number of North American areas were consolidated effective August 1 of this year, one change was that the Idaho Area was merged into the North America Central Area.

And as a result of that change, all Area Seventies serving in Idaho were subsequently reassigned from the Fifth Quorum of the Seventy to the Sixth Quorum thereof. With that in mind, effective August 1, the area-by-area composition of the Third-Eighth Quorums was as follows: The Third Quorum of the Seventy is comprised of all area seventies serving in the 3 current Africa Areas (Africa Southeast, Africa West, and Middle East/Africa North) and the two Europe Areas (Europe and Europe East). Next August, once the Africa Southeast Area division goes into effect, the Africa Central and Africa South Areas will replace it.\

The current Fourth Quorum is comprised of those serving in the Caribbean, Central America, Mexico, and South America Northwest Areas. With the North American Areas being consolidated from 10 down to 6, the Firth Quorum is now comprised of those serving in the North America West and Utah Areas, while the Sixth is comprised of those serving in the North America Central, North America Northeast, North America Southeast, and North America Southwest Areas. Those serving in the Brazil and South America South Areas are part of the current Seventh Quorum, while those serving in the Asia, Asia North, Pacific, and Philippines Areas comprise the current Eighth Quorum of the Seventy.

And I also have an area-by-area and Quorum-by-Quorum running total tracked as well. Also effective August 1 of this year, those numbers broke down as follows:
Quorum
Totals within each Area
Quorum Total
Running Total
Third
15+15+16+5+1
52
52
Fourth
6+15+22+21
64
116
Fifth
16+30
46
162
Sixth
17+13+7+18
55
217
Seventh
23+21
44
261
Eighth
9+12+12+13
48
309

According to doctrinal provisions practiced by the Church, once any Seventies Quorum reaches more than 70 members, it should be split. Therefore, without taking into account the releases of any current area seventies, the Fourth Quorum as presently constituted is within 6 members of being at the maximum. And the Third and Sixth Quorums are currently within 18 and 15 members, respectively, of 70.

So I could see the Church either adding a Quorum or adjusting the current parameters of each Quorum to be more geographically convenient, especially since there will be another area added to the current Third Quorum once the Africa Central Area becomes fully operational. Above and beyond these things, I am not sure what exactly to expect going into the October 2019 General Conference.  But with a focus on reducing and simplifying programs and procedures for the Church and the workload of members while enacting measures to more fully unify the entire Church membership on a global scale, anything may be possible.

So my best recommendation as I close out this analysis is that we buckle up, pray in advance that we will be prepared for what is to come in General Conference and that our individual needs may be met and questions answered by what will be said and whatever may be announced. If we are thus prepared for General Conference, we will likewise be able to have the instantaneous assurance from the Spirit that whatever is said or announced is in harmony with the will of the Lord for His Church at this time. And I hope we will be content therewith.

That does it for now. Any and all comments are, as always, welcome and appreciated, on any post at any time, as long as such comments are made in accordance with the established guidelines. Thank you for the privilege of your time. If you enjoyed what you read here and would like to stay informed of newly added content, please feel free to subscribe. Until my next post, I wish each one of you all the best and pray that the Lord will bless you all in everything you do.

18 comments:

  1. Hello again, everyone! I have a few items of news which may be of interest to some of you. First, in Lisbon Portugal, it is now almost 6:00 AM on Sunday September 1, so the open house has concluded for that temple, and it is now being prepared for its' dedication, which will occur on September 15, under the presiding direction of Elder Neil L. Andersen.

    Meanwhile, for the Port-au-Prince Haiti Temple, it is now almost 1:00 AM local time, so the dedication of that temple, over which Elder David A. Bednar will preside, is now just around 9 hours away. Having noted that, I wanted to proviede a look at the Church's progress towards 200 operating temples, which, according to a Church News article released last year, will almost certainly occur by or before the 200th anniversary of the Church's reestablishment. That anniversary will take place on Saturday April 6, 2030. Between tomorrow (Sunday September 1) and that day,, there are 10.59 years within which to dedicate the 35 remaining temples, given that the Port-au-Prince Haiti Temple will become the 165th operating temple of the Church. So as long as the Church dedicates an average 3.31 temples per year within that time, the goal should easily be reached.

    Within the next year alone, 4 or 5 other temples are anticipated to be dedicated, 2 of which will occur before the end of this year (Lisbon Portugal and Arequipa Peru Temples). And within thee next two years, a total of around 9 new temples will be dedicated, which will lower the average number as the number of dedicated temples increases. So i see no reason to believe anything other than that the Church will have a minimum of 200 operating temples by that bicentennial anniversary, and it is even possible there could be quite a few more than that. I look forward to seeing what occurs in that respect.

    In the meantime, it appears that the Rome Italy Temple district has been assigned to cover 11 stakes and 2 districts based in Italy, Albania, Cyprus, and România. Meanwhile, the Kinshasa DR Congo Temple has been assigned to cover 24 stakes and 6 districts throughout the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Republic of the Congo, Angola, Cameroon, and Rwanda. And the Fortaleza Brazil Temple district covers 34 stakes and 6 districts based in the Brazilian states of Ceará, Pará, Piauí, Maranhão, Rio Grande do Norte, Tocantins, Bahia, Paraíba, and Pernambuco, and also reported a few of the stakes and districts once covered by the Caracas Venezuela Temple.

    Once the Port-au-Prince Haiti Temple is dedicated tomorrow, it is set to serve the 5 stakes and 4 districts based in Haiti. And when the Lisbon Portugal Temple is dedicated two weeks from tomorrow, it will serve 9 stakes and 6 districts scattered throughout Portugal. THere is no word yet on the future boundaries of the Arequipa Peru and Durban South Africa Temple districts, but it will be interesting to see what happens there.

    Hope the information in this comment has proven informative to at least some of you. As always, my thanks again to you all for your continued interest and ongoing support.

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  2. Hello again, everyone! The Deseret News has published the following article in advance of Elder Bednar dedicating the Port-au-Prince Haiti Temple in roughly 7.5 hours:

    https://www.deseret.com/2019/8/31/20841436/haiti-2010-earthquake-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints

    And additional articles published by the Church News share more insight into lessons learned from President Nelson's latest ministry tour:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-08-31/boyd-matheson-latam-ministry-tour-elder-quentin-cook-158944

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-09-01/president-nelson-ministry-tour-birthday-latam-158366

    Once again, my thanks to you all.

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  3. One probability in regards to the announcements is that it could at least partially refer to releasings of General Authority and Area Seventies.

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  4. Hello, Scott. Thank you for taking time to comment. In a way, I can see your point. After all, the Newsroom release in question did not mention anything about the order in which he made the statements I cited above. It is possible that his comment about temples and other announcements for General Conference came before the rest of what he said.

    But my theory is that he was alluding to something else entirely. Given past decades of what has become a matter of tradition, the bulk of any releases of those in Church leadership (particularly General Authority Seventies) comes as a matter of course just about every October. The only recent example where General Authority releases have caught some (myself included) off-guard occurred in April of 2012, when the First Presidency extended a release and granted emeritus general authority status to the current members of the Presiding Bishopric, who, incidentally, became the only non-GA Seventies (aside from Church Patriarch Eldred G. Smith) to have been granted emeritus status.

    Aside from those April releases, all General Authority releases occur as a matter of tradition in October. And quite a few area seventies are usually released around that same time, which has been the case for at least the last decade. That is why, on my end, I am assuming that the Newsroom presented the insights from President Nelson in the order in which he gave them to the media.

    If I have that correct, then his mention of "other announcements" to come during the October 2019 General Conference were in direct reference to his earlier statement: "There are exciting things ahead. This work is moving forward at an accelerated pace. I can just hardly wait to bounce out of bed each morning and see what the day will bring. We invite all people to come unto Christ, to become more like Him, to experience the joyous blessings of the Holy Temple and to have eternal life.” If he then went on to mention the new temples and "other announcements" which were coming in October, then those other announcements were directly tied to his statement about the coming announcements was in direct relation to his statement about the work moving forward at an accelerated pace, and how he can hardly wait to get out of bed each morning to see what the day will bring.

    I have also mentioned a few different times on this blog the account shared by someone who overheaard Presidents Oaks and Eyring leaving a meeting with President Nelson and marveling at the fact that he had just outlined the changes and other announcements wwhich were to be implemented Church-wide over the nexxt couple of years.

    Based on what I have laid out here, unless I am completely wrong here, it seems far easier to assume that last April's General Conference provided constancy in the midst of great change, and that after that breather for the Church, President Nelson has had more revelations that will change the Church when he discloses the details thereof in October.

    That said, I know that there was a lot of hype surrounding the April 2019 General Conference and the additional changes which might have been coming at that time, and many were surprised or even disappointed when that did not occur. So it is possible that I have my interpretation of his statement completely wrong, especially if he made the comments in a different order than what was presented in the news release. Either way, I hope all of us are looking forward to and preparing as individuals and families for the upcoming General Conference and whatever might be taught or announced over that weekend. If that is the case, then none of us will need to feel disappointed or surprised about what does and does not happen at that time. In the meantime, I always appreciate hearing from you, Scott, so thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

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  5. There has to be something about the new Children and Youth program since the Church's involvement in Boy Scouts ends at the end of the year.

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  6. Hello, brycen. It's great to hear from you again. It's been a little while. Hope you are well. I am not sure what to think about General Conference in terms of the new Children and Youth initiative. On the one hand, General Conference would be the perfect place to share more specific information about what is coming in that regard. But on the other hand, the Sunday before General Conference (September 29), Church congregations all around the world have been asked to use the second hour of the Church block for a Fifth-Sunday presentation that will involve watching video clips in which President M. Russell Ballard will detail more specific information on that initiative. And then, on Sunday November 17, children, youth, their parents, and their leaders are invited to participate in a Face-to-Face event about the new program, which will feature Elder Gerrit W. Gong of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who is serving, among other assignments, as a member of the Priesthood and Family Executive Council. He will be accompanied in addressing questions about the initiative during that event by the entire General Presidencies of the Primary, Young Men, and Young Women.

    So with those two events meant to specifically introduce, detail, and answer questions about the initiative, it will be interesting indeed to see whether or not additional focus on and information about the initiative is shared at any point during General Conference. I assume that will largely depend on what the videos from President Ballard and the Face-to-Face Event for Children and YOuth will encompass about that subject. It will be interesting to see what happens there. Thanks again, brycen, for taking time to comment.

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  7. Hello again, everyone! I have a few Church news items to report. First of all, President and Sister Nelson and Elder and Sister Cook stopped in Sao Paulo yesterday. On Saturday, they took time to worship at the Sao Paulo Brazil Temple. This afternoon, they spoke at a devotional originating from Sao Paulo, which was carried via the internet and satellite transmission to the entire nation of Brazil. Given that it is now around 8:00 PM Sao Paulo time, the Church leaders are now either preoaring to depart Brazil or en route to do so in order to return to Church headquerters in Salt Lake City sometime tomorrow. You can read the report currently available about their ministry visit to Sao Paulo in the following article:

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-and-elder-cook-conclude-latin-america-ministry-in-s%C3%A3o-paulo-brazil

    I will be sure to bring other reports on the tour as they come in. In the meantime, given that it is now just past 7:00 PM Haiti time, the dedicatory services for the Port-au-Prince temple have wrapped up. As anticipated, Elder Bednar presided over those sessions. Aside from these general mentions, I do not yet have access to any specific reports on that dedication yet, but will be sure to pass them along here as I become aware of them. In the meantime, my thanks again to you all.

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  8. Other than the offiial announcement of area seventies in 1997, the arrangement and realignment of the quorums were never mentioned in General Conference. The addition of the 6th through 8th quorums were all announced later, with the announcement of the reshuffling occuring much like the recent area consolidations and divisions of this last yer.

    This is also the first time I can recall that a Church president has said anything about what was going to happen at an upcoming general conference that I can recall. Temple announcements, other things seemingly have always been out of the blue. including last year's announcement of the temple in India which caught those in the temple department flat-footed as usually a few thre know what is about to go down beforehand.

    Matt's tjinking in relationship to th missionary program is one thing, there could be others that are on nobody's radar outside of Church headquarters that could be announced.

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    1. James Anderson, first, thank you for stopping by to comment. I always appreciate hearing from you. Second, please forgive my delayed response. I read your comment not long after it was posted, but had other things to tend to and also wanted to carefully work out a reply as thoughtful and thought-provoking as your comment proved to be for me. So in response to your comment, I wanted to note that you are correct that, aside from the initial announcement about area seventies by President Hinckley, the subsequent Quorum changes were not directly announced or even referenced in General Conferences after they occurred.

      But so much that used to be routine or tradition in President Hinckley's administration looks completely different now under President Nelson's leadership. A few quick examples previously, any changes in the Presidency of the Seventy not resulting from one of the membmers thereof being called to the apostleship was only sustained in the General Conference held after the changes took effect. Two new members of the Presidency of the Seventy (namely Elders Juan A. Uceda and Patrick Kearon) began serving in that capacity in August 2017, but they were not sustained in those roles until October 2017.

      During President Nelson's first General Conference as Church President, President Oaks not only read the names of those replacing Elders Gong and Soares in the Presidency of the Seventy, but also led the sustaining of the 3 changes that only went into effect the following August. Under Presidents Hinckley or Monson, that would have occurred in October.

      President Oaks also read a list of the nations from which the then-current number of General Authorities had specifically bailed from, which was another first for the Church. It also used to be standard procedure for the Statistical Report to be read each April during the Saturday Afternoon Session, but that was changed starting last year.

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    2. A couple more examples, if I may be indulged in providing them: From 2004-2015, anytime a new apostle (or apostles) were sustained in General Conference, they first spoke to the Church in their new roles in the Sunday Morning Session as a somewhat standard procedure. But both of President Nelson's first two apostolic picks spoke first in the Sunday Afternoon Session of the conference in which they were called.

      And during almost the entire administrations of Presidents Hinckley and Monson, each monthly edition of the Ensign which were published then came with pages of a "News of the Church" section at the end. They varied in length, as we saw. But beginning a few years ago, those News of the Church sections have since only been prominently featured at the end of the May and November editions, while a two-page section with that title has been published in August to detail the basics of the area leadership changes. All other editions of the Ensign focus on other content nowadays.

      What I am trying to say here (and am not saying very well at all) is that things that were standard during the tenures of Presidents Hinckley and Monson are no longer standardized in the same manner under President Nelson's leadership. Not one of the 3 General Conferences held with President Nelson presiding over them have maintained the same patterns that were a general rule under Presidents Hinckley and Monson.

      So that tells me that looking at the way things were done by prior prophets may not be the best indicator of how they might be done today under our current prophet. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree with my theory about changes to Area Seventies Quorums. I had similar theories with the October 2018 and April 2019 conference that didn't hold water.

      But I could see President Nelson mentioning things in General Conference that would have been simply announced via the Church webwsite or in the Ensigns under his two immediate prophetic predecessors. I hope that makes sense. The long and the short of my point is that gauging how President Nelson might do things by how they were done by his immediate prophetic predecessors may or may not be the best way to make such an assessment in this particular case.

      Those are just my thoughts in response to what you said, James Anderson. If we were talking about President Hinckley or President Monson, my tendency would be to concur with you. With a prophet that has broken precedent in the past, though, I believe that may prove to be true again, perhaps in cases such as possible changes affecting area seventies. But I appreciate the chance to address your comment here. I wouldn't rule out the prospect of such changes being mentioned by President Nelson, but that is just because he has apporached other things differently than past prophets have done. Just wanted to share that food for thought, for what it might be worth to you or anyone else who reads it. In the meantime, thanks for stopping by to share your thooughts on this.

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    3. Sorry. One more thing. President Nelson's statment noted that "more temples and other announcements" were coming in October. Since the term was pluralized rather than singular, and since temples were singled out, suggesting that, in addition to new temples, there will be more than one other announcement made. So if new temples and a change to the missionary program are announced, there will almost certainly be one other major announcements, which is why I suggested a change in the geographical distribution of area seventies quorums, or in the number of quorums thereof. That said, I agree with you that perhaps it could be something else on no one's radar for the immediate future, which, if true, will be intriguing to find out mroe about. Thanks again for taking time to comment.

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  9. Hello again, everyone! While any of you can feel free to reply to anything said previously on this or any other thread, coverage has finally been provided on the dedication of the Port-au-Prince Haiti Temple:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2019-09-01/haiti-temple-dedication-elder-david-a-bednar-158710

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-haitian-temple-is-dedicated

    Naturally, the dedication of any temple, and the coverage provided for it, is exciting in and of itself. But the coverage of this temple's dedication was intriguing for another reason to me entirely. Elder Larry Y. Wilson, who was born on New Year's Eve in 1949, will mark his 70th birthday on the last day of this year. While I anticipate he will be one of teh 9 General Authority Seventies released and granted emeritus status in October, I figured his assignment with the temple department would be transferred to someone else.

    The one thing about which I wasn't as sure was who that might be. So I was pleased to see the Church News article on the dedication note that Elder Kevin R. Duncan is the new Executive Director of the Temple Department. It was great to find out that information.

    The next major Church event that we know of is this Friday's celebration of President Nelson's 95th birthday. Next Sunday, Elder Cook will observe his 78th birthday, and the following day will be when our prophet is officially 95. The coming weeks will see the open houses start for the Frankfurt Germany and Raleigh North Carolina Temples. And I have my next apostolic age and tenure milestone update planned for publication on Sunday September 22. On Monday September 30, the feedback period for my latest list of temple prospects will end so I can make any adjustments before General Conference weekend rolls around.

    So just based on konwn events, there is quite a bit of coverage coming up on this blog. And I will also monitor all Church news and temple developments and pass those along as I become aware of them. In the meantime, my thanks again to you all for your continued interest and ongoing support.

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  10. Some additional Church news has been reported, with coverage from both the Newsroom and the Church News. So let's get into those articles. First of all, further coverage has been provieded on President Nelson's Latin American Ministry Tour:

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-brasilia-brazil-2019

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-and-elder-cook-conclude-latin-america-ministry-in-s%C3%A3o-paulo-brazil

    And from the Church News comes more coverage on that tour:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/members/2019-09-01/latin-america-ministry-tour-video-youth-latam-159013

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-08-30/president-nelson-book-of-mormon-missionaries-brazil-latam-158346

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-08-31/president-russell-m-nelson-scrabble-video-latam-158916

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-08-31/boyd-matheson-latam-ministry-tour-elder-quentin-cook-158944

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-09-01/im-just-looking-forward-says-president-nelson-as-tour-nears-conclusion-a-week-before-his-95th-birthday-158366

    And here is the one Church news article not directly related to the Latin American Ministry Tour or the Port-au-Prince Haitit Temple dedication:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/living-faith/2019-09-01/byu-education-week-youth-experiences-158369

    As always, I continue to monitor all Church news and temple udpates and Church news and will pass word of such developments along to you all as I become aware of such things. In the meantime, my thanks once again to you all.

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  11. Here is an article published around two hours ago as a capstone to the coverage of President Nelson's Latin American Ministry Tour:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2019-09-02/latin-america-ministry-tour-president-nelson-latam-brazil-158363

    My thanks again to you all.

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  12. Hello again, everyone! The editor of the Church News, Sarah Jane Weaver, has provided a look at how the powerful effect of a prayer offered by youth of the Church in Colombia reminded her of a choice experience she had observing President Nelson in Tahiti:

    https://www.thechurchnews.com/living-faith/2019-09-02/what-i-know-now-colombia-latam-158466

    I continue to monitor all Church news and temple updates and will do my level best to pass word of those along to you all as I become aware of such things.

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  13. Newsroom posted this video, a little way in President Nelson says what he did about temples and the upcoming conference, and elaborates, perhaps hinting a pattern to some of the future locations.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUx1J-16d94&t=318s

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    1. James Anderson, thank you for sharing that here. I do most of my web browsing and typing on my computer, but my current laptop has an issue with the audio which I am still trying to resolve. As a consequence, I often report stories here from the Church News and Newsroom, including those accompanyiing videos, and unless I go back and watch the accompanying videos subsequently on my phone, I miss out on that part of such coverage.

      So I appreciate you drawing my attention (and that of others who may read your comment here) to the video interview with President Nelson and Elder Cook, which I had not previously seen. I knew that Yigo Guam, Praia Cabo Verde, and San Juan Puerto Rico were more remote, so the fact that other temples will be announced in remote areas, and that they could be smaller with just a focus on the basic functions a temple is meant to fill, does not come as a surprise. THere are quite a few locations on the list I have published for this General Conference that could fall into the category of needing a smaller temple, as they are more remote or isolated cities. And some of them are admittedly long-shot candidates, or would have been before the precedent of the three temples I mentioned above was set. But in light of President Nelson's statement that more temples like that are on the horizon, they may be more feasible for the near term than some might have otherwise considered.

      And that applies to the upcoming General Conference as well as subsequent ones for the foreseable future. If I am correct in my theory that the number of temples announced in October will be a slight increase to the 12 announced last October, in the same way that the 8 from last April were a slight increase to the 7 announced the previous April, then my target estimate of 14-16 new temples being announced in about a month might not be that far off. In fact, I can think of three locations in particular from my current list that are more remote and isolated from their assigned temple at present: Antananarivo Madagascar, Edinburgh Scotland, and Kingston Jamaica. It would not shock me at all if all 3 were among the other locations within which a temple will be announced next month.

      Madagascar is separated from the rest of the African contient, so any temple to which the Saints in that nation are assigned will be difficult to reach unless it is built on their island nation. Both Scotland and Ireland are comparatively isolated from their assigned temple in Preston England. And with many of the nations or islands which are assigned to the Caribbean Area being so far apart, a Kington Jamaica Temple could help ameliorate difficult travel for the Saints there.

      Again, thank you, James Anderson, for drawing my attention to that interview. I appreciate you doing so. Always a pleasure to hear from you.

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    2. I supppose Ulaanbaatar Mongolia would technically fall under that category as well.

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