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Monday, October 2, 2017

Some Thoughts About the Apostolic Vacancy

Hello again, everyone! Even though we do not yet have any indication when the funeral for Elder Hales will be held, and even though, with his death yesterday, it is awfully early to be thinking about the apostolic vacancy, I have taken the liberty of writing down some of my thoughts in that regard. Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

Apostles appointed during President Monson’s prophetic tenure have, at the time of their calls, ranged in age from Elder Rasband’s 64.7 years to Elder Andersen’s 57.7 years, having a range of 7 years. After Elder Rasband, the next oldest apostle at the time of his call was Elder Christofferson at 63.3 years, then Elder Renlund at 62.8 years, then Elder Stevenson, who was 60.2 years old, then, of course, Elder Andersen. Of the 14 apostles, they have ranged in age from the oldest apostle, Elder Quentin L. Cook, who was 67.1 years old at the time of his call, to President Monson, who, as we know, was 36.1 years old at the time of his call, which gives us a spread of 31 years between the ages of the two at the time of their call. The average age of the 14 apostles at the time of their calls was 57.98 years. As this data shows, the Church has no end of options in terms of the age of the new apostle. If the Church sticks to the average age at which apostles have been called during President Monson’s presidency, then the new apostle will be no older than 61.7 years. At a quick glance, that would include two members of the Presiding Bishopric (Bishops Causse & Waddell), three members of the Presidency of the Seventy (Craig C. Christensen, Ulisses Soares, & Patrick Kearon), and 39 General Authority Seventies.

The question arises, as it always does, would the Church look to someone internationally born, in the vein of President Uchtdorf, or would they tap someone American born who has international Church service experience? And would they look to someone with more experience as a General Authority, or someone newer? The most recently called apostle, Elder Renlund, was called in 2009. If we assume that the Church will look for a more-tenured General Authority Seventy within the age range above, who has international experience and is a US citizen, we have the following brethren:

1.      Elder Craig C. Christensen: 61.5 years old; called as a GA Seventy in October 2002; born in Salt Lake City; served a mission in Santiago Chile; mission president in Mexico City; served for four years as president of the Mexico South Area.
2.      Elder Paul B. Pieper: will be 60 on the 7th of this month; called as a GA Seventy in April 2005; born in Pocatello Idaho; served a mission in Monterrey Mexico; moved to Kazakhstan, where he learned to speak Russian; mission president in St. Petersburg Russia; has served in the Europe East Area Presidency; coordinated Church efforts in the Middle East/Africa North Area; currently serves as a counselor in the Mexico Area Presidency.
3.      Elder Marcus B. Nash: 60.5 years old; called as a GA Seventy in April 2006; born in Seattle Washington; served a mission in San Salvador El Salvador; helped construct the Seattle Washington Temple; served as a counselor in and then president of the South America Northwest Area.
4.      Elder Kevin W. Pearson: 60.4 years old; called as a GA Seventy in April 2008; born in Salt Lake City; served a mission in Helsinki Finland; has served as a counselor in the Europe East and Pacific Areas; served as president of the Pacific Area.
5.      Elder Michael T. Ringwood: 59.4 years old; called as a GA Seventy in April 2009; born in Provo, Utah; served a mission in South Korea; President Nelson’s son-in-law; mission president in Seoul Korea; has served as a counselor and president of the Asia North Area.
There is always a possibility that the Church could choose an internationally-born apostle in that age range. If that happens, there are a couple of picks at the top of my list:
1.      Presiding Bishop Gerald Causse: 54.3 years old; called as a GA Seventy in April 2008, to the Presiding Bishopric in April 2012, and as Presiding Bishop in October 2015; born in Bordeaux, France; stake president for six years (from 2001-2007); area seventy for one year; served in the presidency of the Europe Area. When there were 3 apostolic vacancies to fill in 2015, I thought he might be called, but that didn’t happen.
2.      Elder Ulisses Soares of the Presidency of the Seventy: his 59th birthday is today; called as a GA Seventy in April 2005; born in Brazil; served a mission in Rio de Janeiro Brazil; worked for a time as director of temporal affairs for the Church in Brazil; stake president in Brazil; mission president in Portugal; has served as a counselor and president of the Church’s Brazil South Area; counselor in the Africa Southeast Area Presidency. I thought he would also be called to fill one of the apostolic vacancies in 2015, but that didn’t happen.

3.      Elder Michael John U. Teh, General Authority Seventy: 52.3 years old; called as a GA Seventy in April 2007; born in the Philippines; served a mission in Davao; worked full-time for the Church as a recorder in the Manila Philippines Temple; also worked as a manager in the Church’s Member and Statistical Records Division in the Philippines Area; was a counselor in a mission presidency and an area seventy; served as a counselor in the Philippines Area Presidency both prior to and after his call as a General Authority; served as president of that area from 2011-2013; has served as president of the Taiwan Taichung Mission since last year. After President Hinckley died, I was praying about the apostolic vacancy and felt distinctly that Elder Teh would fill it at that time. Almost 9 years later, there have been four other apostolic vacancies, and despite my feeling that Elder Teh would fill one of them, that has not happened. It could happen this time.

2 comments:

  1. My guess is Elder Gong. Sure, he's a bit older than you'd like to see. However, he's only 63, and that tracks closely with the ages of the three brethren called in 2015. Here are my reasons:

    1) He has significant, official experience internationally. In today's tumultuous world, I could see his contacts with government officials around the world being quite useful. If there were danger in Korea or Eastern Europe, Elder Gong could pick up the phone and call a personal friend at the State Department to get an assessment. That would be very useful. In the same way, he understands international politics and can interpret the news better than any other General Authority. I think that would also be useful.

    2) He is ethnically diverse, but not culturally diverse. He is of Asian descent, but was raised in California by parents who were also born in America. This means that we could have a minority apostle, but one who fits into American culture as well as you or I do, which means he can work well within the established patterns of the quorum. I think that is an important factor the Prophet considers when issuing the call to serve.

    3) He has served in the Presidency of the Seventy for a few years now, and that group is a farm team for the Twelve. He has the church governing experience needed to be an effective administrator at the highest levels.

    Speculation is fun! His age is a detriment, but I don't think it will rule him out. Considering a second vacancy is looming (Monson) and the advanced age of some of the others (Nelson, Ballard), there will be several other chances to call a young guy in his 50s over the next few years.

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  2. Interesting thoughts. Elder Gong has been a General Authority Seventy since 2010, which would be within the range in which other apostles have come to the apostleship, particularly the last two, where Elder Stevenson was called in 2008 and Elder Renlund was called in 2009. The next step would naturally be someone tried and proven like Elder Gong. He may be a very strong contender, despite his age. He would fit in age right between Elder Renlund (born in November 1952) and Elder Stevenson (born in 1955).He would be another December birthday (joining Elder Holland). It would be interesting to see that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate you taking time to do so.

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