Hello again, everyone! A little earlier than I had anticipated, I am posting right now to share my updated list of potential locations that are most like to have a temple announced in the October 2018 General Conference in just around 8 weeks.
I cannot be sure of anything, but if I had to venture a guess, I would say that any new temples that will be announced by President Nelson during that General Conference will be announced during his opening address Saturday Morning, unless he opts to not speak during that session, in which case any temples would then be announced the following morning or in the final session.
I have done my best to extensively notate my reasoning for this list, including locations which I added. That said, I hope all of you who review it will feel free to let me know if I have overlooked or failed to consider anything. Your comments are, as always, welcome and appreciated.
The list (along with the relevant notes) follows below. That does it for this post. Thank you for the privilege of your time. If you enjoyed what you read here and would like to stay informed of newly-added content, please feel free to subscribe. Until my next post, I wish each one of you all the best and pray that the Lord will bless you all in everything you do.
Temple Predictions: 3+ temples announced, with the most likely
locations (in my opinion), on the list below (grouped first by the geographical
areas of the Church under which these locations fall, then by imminent
likelihood within those areas.
Preliminary note:
With seven temples having been announced last April (the second-highest number
of temples ever announced at once), some have offered their opinion that
perhaps no new temples may be announced during this General Conference. While I
understand the rationale behind that opinion, there have been an increasing
number of references to the fact that President Nelson’s plans to expand the
number of temples worldwide will outpace and overshadow what we previously saw
under President Hinckley’s inspired leadership.
As I will detail more fully in
the notes below, if that plan involves lowering the maximum distance within
which Saints worldwide have to travel to reach their assigned temple (which has
been around 200 miles), then that, combined with whatever his plans are to
expand the number of temples may mean that nothing can be reasonably ruled out. The
selections which follow below represent what, to me, are the most likely
prospects, sorted first by the area of the Church under which they fall, then
by likelihood within that area, along with any pertinent information which was
shared via the comments on my blog.
Africa Southeast
[1]:
Antananarivo Madagascar
[2]; Kampala
Uganda
[3];
Maputo Mozambique
[4]; Lubumbashi DR Congo
[5];
Cape Town South Africa
[6]
Africa West
[7]: Freetown
Sierra Leone
[8]; Kumasi Ghana
[9] Lagos
Nigeria
[10];
Monrovia Liberia
[11]; Yamoussoukro Ivory Coast
[12]
Asia
[13]: Ulaanbaatar
Mongolia
[14]; Phnom
Penh Cambodia
[15]; Taichung Taiwan
[16]
Caribbean: San
Juan Puerto Rico
[22]
Pacific: Port
Moresby Papua New Guinea
[35];
Auckland New Zealand
[36]; Tarawa
Kiribati
[37];
Pago Pago American Samoa
[38]; Neiafu
Vava'u Tonga
[39]
South America
Northwest
[42]: La Paz/Santa Cruz
Bolivia
[43];
Maracaibo Venezuela
[44];
Iquitos Peru
[45]; Cali/Medellin Colombia
[46]
South America
South
[47]: Ciudad
del Este Paraguay
[48]; Valparaiso
[49]/Antofagasta
[50]Chile;
Neuquen Argentina
[51]
North America
[52]
(including the United States and Canada):
North America
Central: Missoula Montana
[54];
Rapid City South Dakota
[55]; Wichita
Kansas
[56];
Lethbridge Alberta
[57];
Green Bay Wisconsin
[58];
Des Moines Iowa
[59]; Pueblo Colorado
[60]
North America
Northeast: Augusta Maine
[61];
Hamilton Ontario
[62]; Montpelier Vermont
[63]
Morristown/East
Brunswick New Jersey
[64];
Concord New Hampshire
[65]
North America
Northwest: Fairbanks Alaska
[66]
North America
Southeast: Jackson Mississippi
[67];
Shreveport Louisiana
[68]; Jacksonville
Florida
[69];
Knoxville Tennessee
[70]
North America
Southwest: Bentonville Arkansas
[71];
Elko
[72]/Ely
[73]
Nevada; Fort Worth Texas
[74];
Las Cruces New Mexico
[75];
Flagstaff Arizona
[76]
North America
West: Bakersfield California
[77]
Utah Salt Lake
City: Herriman
[78];
[1]The Church has experienced
substantial growth throughout the African continent, and that applies to this
area of the Church as well. Right now, the only currently-operating temple is
in Johannesburg South Africa. There are 2 additional temples under construction
(in Kinshasa DR Congo and Durban South Africa, both of which will be dedicated
next year) and 2 others announced (in Harare Zimbabwe and Nairobi Kenya, both
of which may have a groundbreaking within the next 2-3 years or less). If the
growth in this area continues as it has, then several other temples may be
needed, with the most likely prospects (in my opinion) and the reasoning behind
each location following in the next several notes.
[2]Madagascar is currently the
last of the top ten nations with the strongest Church presence that does not
have a temple in any phase. Madagascar is separated by a body of water from the
rest of the African continent, which means that anywhere else an African temple
is now or will be built is difficult for the Madagascar Saints to get to.
Currently, the Saints in Madagascar have a journey of 1,338 miles from the
Johannesburg South Africa Temple. Once the Harare Zimbabwe Temple is built and
dedicated, that distance will be cut to 1,082 miles. Between the great distance
and the difficulty of travel, Madagascar is surely a top contender for a temple
of its’ own.
[3]The Saints in Uganda (which
is the sixth nation with the strongest Church presence without a temple in any
phase) currently travel 2,478.5 miles to the Johannesburg South Africa temple.
While other temples announced or under construction will cut that distance
slightly, the major cut will only come when the Nairobi Kenya temple is built
and dedicated, at which point the Uganda Saints will only have a travel
distance of 403.9 miles. If that 200-mile distance goal set by previous Church
presidents is lowered at all, then Uganda will be a prime candidate for a
temple sooner rather than later.
[4]Right now, the Saints in
Mozambique currently travel 341.5 miles to worship at the Johannesburg South
Africa Temple. No other temple under construction or announced will be any
closer than that. Mozambique already qualifies for a temple based on the
200-mile goal previously referenced. So if that goal is lowered at all, the
imminence of such a prospect may be just a matter of time.
[5]The first temple in the DR
Congo (in Kinshasa) is currently anticipated to be dedicated in early 2019. So
the imminence of a second temple there may be in doubt That said, the Saints in
Lubumbashi currently travel 1,319.7 miles to the Johannesburg South Africa
Temple, and since the Saints in that city will be even further away from the
Kinshasa temple, the most substantial cut of that distance will only occur once
the Harare Zimbabwe Temple is dedicated, at which point the journey will be
645.2 miles. Since that is still 3 times further than the current goal,
Lubumbashi may get a temple sooner rather than later. It is also worth noting
that Elder Neil L. Andersen publicly proposed a temple in the Kasai region two
years ago, but that prospect does not seem as imminent as this one, as
Lubumbashi is the second-largest city in the DR Congo.
[6]The Durban South Africa
Temple is anticipated to be dedicated within the next 12-18 months. The first
president for this temple is currently a resident of Cape Town. Although many
people have advanced George as the location for the next temple in that nation,
Cape Town has emerged from my study as the more likely prospect. The Saints in
Cape Town currently travel 868.4 miles to the Johannesburg temple, and are
further than that from Durban. The only question may be how soon a third temple
may be announced for South Africa, although it may be sooner than many (myself
included) currently believe.
[7]The Church in the Africa
West Area has also experienced massive and rapid growth. The LDS Church Growth
Blog recently reported that, if current growth trends in the Africa West Area
continue as they have been lately, the Church could go from the 2 operating and
1 announced temple to 13 in operation by sometime during 2030. With that in
mind, several temples may dot this area in the near future, and the locations
in this section seem to me to be the most imminently likely prospects.
[8]Sierra Leone is now the
fourth of the top ten nations that have the strongest Church presence but do
not yet have a temple in any phase. With the recent expanded growth in Sierra
Leone (particularly with so many districts that have been upgraded to stakes),
a temple there may simply be a matter of time. The Saints in Freetown currently
journey 1,243.2 miles to the Accra Ghana temple, a distance which will not be
cut until the temple in Abidjan Ivory Coast is built and dedicated, at which
point the Freetown Saints will be 911 miles away. Since that is still far
greater than the 200-mile distance, whether or not that mileage goal is
lowered, Sierra Leone is very likely to get a temple soon.
[9]Since the dedication of the
Accra Ghana temple in January 2004, Ghana has seen sufficient enough growth (in
my opinion) to potentially get a second temple. And Kumasi has emerged as the
most likely city for such a temple. Although the Saints in Kumasi currently
only have to travel 154.4 miles to the Accra temple, if the minimum mileage is
lowered, then a temple in Kumasi may just be a matter of time.
[10]Nigeria has likewise seen
extensive growth since the Aba temple was dedicated in August 2005. While many
have offered their opinions that Benin City would be the better prospect for
Nigeria’s second temple, the elements I have studied leads me to conclude that
Lagos, which is 291 miles away from Aba, is the more imminent prospect. That
said, I would fully anticipate that there will be temples in both Lagos and
Benin City at some point within the next 10-15 years or less.
[11]In the afore-mentioned
list on the LDS Church Growth Blog (which covered the 10 nations with the
strongest LDS presence that do not have a temple in any phase), Liberia comes
in at #9. The Saints in Liberia travel 946.5 miles to worship in the Accra
Ghana Temple. Once the Abidjan Ivory Coast Temple is built and dedicated, that
distance will decrease to 616.5 miles. If, as observed in note 12 above, a
temple is built in Freetown, that distance gets almost cut in half to 338.8
miles, which is still well above the current mileage goal. So if the minimum
distance is lowered at all, Liberia may be a prime candidate for a temple in
the near future.
[12]Shortly after the Abidjan
Ivory Coast Temple was announced, I heard feedback to the effect that, if
growth in the Ivory Coast continues as it has lately, a second (and possibly
third) temple was likely within the next 15-30 years or less. The only question
is how soon that might occur. While it would be understandable if the Church
held off on another temple in this nation until the Abidjan temple is further
along, my research has pointed to Yamoussoukro as the next most likely Ivory
Coast city to get a temple. Right now, the Saints in that city travel 478.8
miles to worship at the Accra Ghana Temple. Although that distance will be cut
to 146.6 miles once the Abidjan Ivory Coast, the city would become a prime
candidate for a temple if the minimum distance set by other prophets is lowered
by President Nelson.
[13]Although a previous
version of this list had only one temple prospect for the Asia Area of the
Church, subsequent personal study on my part, combined with comments from my
blog, led me to realize that, if President Nelson’s plans to expand the number
of temples and to accelerate the process by which they are built are any
indication, my personal list of prospects for both the near and more distant
future needed to be expanded. The locations listed for this area seem to have
the most imminent likelihood of getting a temple.
[14]Mongolia was one nation I
had on my list of more distant prospects, primarily because the Church presence
in that nation is not as strong as it seems to be in other Asian nations. The main
argument in favor of a temple being built in Mongolia seems to be the mileage
metric. The Saints in Mongolia currently travel 1,805 miles to the Hong Kong China
Temple. And my study shows that no other operating or announced temple will cut
that distance at all. With that in mind, a temple in Ulaanbaatar seems to be
just a matter of time.
[15]Cambodia is now the
seventh of the top ten nations having the strongest Church presence without a
temple in any phase. So the idea of a temple in Phnom Penh makes sense. With the
Bangkok Thailand Temple planned to be on the larger side, when it is dedicated,
the Saints in Cambodia will only have a journey of 415.2 miles to worship at
that temple. So the Church may prioritize other cities in the near future that
may need a temple more imminently. That said, until I see anything that would
conclusively eliminate Cambodia as a near-future temple prospect, I will be
keeping it on my list.
[16]While I have no firsthand
knowledge of how busy the temple in Taipei Taiwan might be, I do know that the
Church has expanded quite well through Taiwan since this temple was dedicated.
If and when Taiwan gets a second temple, my research shows that Taichung would
be the best location for that honor. Although Taipei and Taichung are just
106.4 miles apart, until I see a reason to remove Taichung from this list, I
feel confident enough to keep it.
[17]The nation of Brazil has
seen strong Church growth, perhaps the greatest amount Church-wide outside of
North America. With 6 temples in operation there currently, there are two
others under construction in Fortaleza (where a dedication is anticipated early
next year) and Rio de Janeiro (which is anticipated to be dedicated in early
2020). There are two others which have been announced in Belem and Brasilia.
With these four in different phases, it is difficult to know how soon other
temples might be announced for the nation. But the following locations, for the
reasons I will highlight below, have a strong case in favor of a temple.
[18]Up until recently, I had
had both Belo Horizonte and Salvador on my list for the immediate future, but
had prioritized them in the reverse order. But the Church News reported on June
14 of this year that Elder Cook, during a visit to Brazil, had spent some time
in Belo Horizonte. We have seen instances recently where members of the First
Presidency or Quorum of the Twelve will visit areas that have recently had a
temple announced, or where the Church is considering building a temple. Based
on Elder Cook’s visit to Belo Horizonte, I have prioritized that city for now.
If I see anything that would convince me to change the order of the two again,
I will do so.
[19]See note above on Belo
Horizonte. Although Elder Cook’s more recent visit to Belo Horizonte did lead
me to prioritize that city above Salvador, further digging on my part led me to
another Church News report (dated March 22, 2018) which highlighted an
apostolic visit by Elder Bednar to Recife, Sao Paulo, Salvador, and Brasilia. Two apostolic visits to the same nation within
a 3-month period is significant. Although there are temples in the first two
cities where Elder Bednar visited (and another temple has been announced for
Brasilia), there is no temple currently announced in Salvador. With that in
mind, a temple could be announced there shortly as well. What will be
interesting to see is whether either will be announced first, or both will be
announced simultaneously, or if one could be announced while the other is in
its’ construction phase.
[20]While I had seen
Florianopolis as a feasible temple prospect at some point in the future, it was
not until I took the reports of President Nelson’s ambitious temple-building
plans into account that I felt comfortable including Florianopolis on this list
for the immediate future. Right now, the nearest temples to the Saints in
Florianopolis are the temple in Curitiba (which is 191.3 miles away) and Porto
Alegre (which is exactly 285 miles away). Because the distances involved
constitute undue hardship for the Saints in Florianopolis, a temple there may
just be a matter of time. That said, it may be some time before we know how
soon a temple might be announced there, if the temples in Salvador and Belo
Horizonte are more imminently needed. For now though, I am confident enough to
put it on this list.
[21]Up until 2016, the Church
had not been known to put a second temple in any city outside the US. In 2016
and 2017, second temples were announced for Lima Peru (which will be named for
and built in the Los Olivos region), and Manila Philippines (in the area of
Muntinlupa City, which has yet to receive an official name). Since Sao Paulo is
a strong area in terms of Church membership, a second temple there may be
needed sooner rather than later, though that prospect could potentially be
delayed until temples rise in Belo Horizonte, Salvador, and Florianopolis. But
if the initial word on President Nelson’s temple building plans are any indication,
then a second Sao Paulo temple, along with the other three locations, may be
announced much sooner than anticipated
[22]Puerto Rico now ranks as
the second of the top ten nations with the strongest Church presence that do
not have a temple in any phase. With the construction of the Port-au-Prince
Haiti Temple underway (which will be a very small temple) it makes sense that
the Church might opt to announce a temple for San Juan in the near future, as
the Puerto Rican Saints currently travel 251 miles to the Santo Domingo
Dominican Republic, which is just about the current minimum mileage goal, but
if that is lowered at all, the prospect certainly will become more imminent. The
one unknown is whether or not the recent natural disasters that have struck
Puerto Rico will impact how soon a temple is built there.
[23]With a temple having been
announced in April for Managua Nicaragua, it may be some time before we hear of
other temples being announced for the Central America Area of the Church. The
case in favor of the locations on my list being announced is a strong one, so
for that reason, they have made the list, but it would not surprise me in any
way if the Church waits on these potential locations until the temple in
Managua is further along. If President Nelson’s reported temple-building plans
are any indication, however, then nothing can potentially be ruled out, and any
of the prospects that are listed for this area seem to be the most imminently
likely possibilities.
[24]The Church in Honduras has
seen extensive growth in recent years, so a third temple in that nation seems
likely. And while there may be many good potential locations where one could be
built, the consensus appears to be that San Pedro Sula is the most likely
prospect, and that a temple for that city could be announced sooner rather than
later.
[25]In similarity to Honduras,
Guatemala has also seen significant Church growth in recent years. And there
are likewise many potential locations where a third temple could be built to
serve the Guatemalan Saints. But the city of Senahu has emerged as the most
likely prospect for that honor, and the consensus seems to be that a temple
there may simply be a matter of time. That said, someone familiar with the
Central America area in general and Guatemala in particular observed that
Senahu is more of an isolated location that does not yet have a significant
Church presence. While we have previous precedents (such as in Winnipeg
Manitoba) where a temple has been built in a more isolated location to cut
inordinate distances, at times, the Church prefers to wait until an area has a
strong Church presence. With all of this in mind, it will be interesting to see
what winds up happening.
[26]As noted above, someone
who is familiar with the situation of the Church in Guatemala mentioned that a
temple in Senahu may be delayed until the presence of the Church increases
there. In the meantime, that same individual noted that a second temple to
split the current Guatemala City Guatemala Temple district may be a more likely
prospect. At this point, given the reasons I outlined in the note above, Senahu
remains on my list. I have also included the prospect of a second temple for
Guatemala City, but could see the merits of removing either of the two as more
information comes to light.
[27]Europe, particularly in
the eastern countries of its’ continent, has seen some stagnation in terms of
the growth of the Church. With temples currently under construction in Rome
Italy and Lisbon Portugal (both of which will be dedicated next year), and another
announced for a major yet-to-be determined city in Russia, the Church may opt
to wait to construct other temples on the European continent until those 3 are
either dedicated or at least further along in the process. That said, on the
off-chance the Church does not so opt, the cities in this section, for the
reasons I will explain in the subsequent notes that will follow this one, have
the greatest chance of being announced in the near future.
[28]When I began sharing my
thoughts on potential future temple locations, someone who has knowledge of the
growth of the Church in Europe indicated that Budapest would likely be the next
European city to get a temple. My study on the matter confirms that opinion, so
it has been on my list for a while. Right now, the Saints in Budapest travel
418 miles to worship at the Freiberg Germany Temple. And neither of the two
European temples under construction will be closer than that, so a temple in
Budapest seems likely.
[29]Although Cape Verde is
technically closer to the Africa North Area of the Church, it falls within the
boundaries of the Europe Area. The nation, which now ranks as the eighth of the
top ten nations with the strongest Church presence that does not have a temple,
will likely have a temple announced in its’ capital city of Praia in the near
future. This is because the Saints in Cape Verde currently travel 2,126 miles
to worship at the Madrid Spain Temple. Although that distance will be slightly
cut to 1,861 miles once the Lisbon Portugal Temple is dedicated, that is over 9
times further away than the mileage goal set by other prophets, and if that
goal is lowered at all, a Praia temple may simply be a matter of time.
[30]When expanding my list of
temple prospects, I knew I had to look at another temple in the UK. I had a
temple for Scotland or Ireland on my list for the distant future, but after
numerous comments on my blog and some additional research on my part, I
determined that Scotland would be the more likely location for the next temple
in the UK. The Saints in Edinburgh are 184.5 miles from their assigned temple
in Preston England. If President Nelson’s temple-building plans involve
lowering the minimum mileage from which any Saint should be from their assigned
temple, then Edinburgh would indeed qualify for a temple, which would likely
also serve Ireland, in addition to some parts of England that are nearest to
the two countries.
[31]Although the Saints in
Austria have seen a slight consolidation in the number of Church units in that
nation recently, their currently assigned temple in Frankfurt (which is closed
for renovation) is 444.3 miles away. If a temple is built in Budapest Hungary,
the Austria Saints may be reassigned to that temple, which would then be 151
miles away. But I would anticipate that a temple could be announced for Vienna
within the next few years, if not immediately, as long as all goes well.
[32]The growth of the Church
in Mexico has somewhat stagnated to the point where Church leaders began last
year to do a mass consolidation of the Church units there, primarily for the
purpose of strengthening the remaining units. With that in mind, it may be
difficult to gauge how soon other Mexican temples might be needed. But for the
locations in this section represent the most likely prospects I see for the
near future.
[33]One of the readers of my
blog (who lives in Mexico) shared feedback reiterating the idea that the next
temple in Mexico will likely be in Puebla, and that such a temple will likely
be announced sooner rather than later. This makes sense, because even though
Puebla is only 81.3 miles from the Mexico City temple, it may be the foremost
prospects to split the current district. The only question might be whether or
not that prospect is as imminent as it appears to be, since there is reportedly
an attendance problem in the Mexico City temple. If it has not been kept busy
enough, that prospect could potentially be delayed for a little while. That
said, I am confident enough to list it here for now, but will be watching for anything
that changes my mind.
[34]The Saints in Queretaro
Mexico currently travel 135.8 miles to worship at the Mexico City Mexico
Temple, and would actually be further away than that from a temple in Puebla,
unless the journey to Puebla would be less of a hardship to those Saints than
the journey to Mexico City. Again, the timing of the announcement(s) for the
next temple(s) will depend largely on whether or not a temple elsewhere would
make sense, given the apparent lack of sufficient activity within the Mexico
City temple. Until more is known about that, and about President Nelson’s plans
to expand the number of temples, I feel confident in keeping both cities on my
list.
[35]Papua New Guinea now ranks
as the nation with the strongest Church presence that does not yet have a
temple. I also learned several years ago that land has been held in reserve in
Port Moresby for a temple for a while now. With that in mind, it may simply be
a matter of time before a temple is announced there.
[36]As with Papua New Guinea,
I had heard years ago that land has been held in reserve in Auckland for a
temple. The Church has since announced and begun a renovation for the only
temple in that nation (which is located in Hamilton). Although the Auckland
Saints are merely 77.6 miles away from the Hamilton temple, if President
Nelson’s plans to expand the number of temples involves halving or quartering
the 200 mile maximum distance set by other Church presidents, Auckland would
certainly qualify for a temple by that metric as well.
[37]Kiribati currently ranks
as the third nation with the strongest LDS presence that does not have a temple
in any phase of construction. The Saints in Tarawa currently travel 1,402 miles
to worship at the Suva Fiji Temple, and no other currently-operating temple is
closer than that. With all of this in mind, a temple in that nation may simply
be a matter of time.
[38]American Samoa ranks fifth
on the list of nations with the strongest Church presence that do not have a
temple in any phase. The nearest temple to the Saints in the capital city of
Pago Pago is currently Apia Samoa, and the Pago Pago Saints currently travel
76.2 miles, which is not long distance-wise, but involves journeying over a
body of water, which may be inconvenient. Also, if the minimum mileage goal set
by previous Church presidents is halved or quartered, that will no doubt make
this prospect more imminent.
[39]Tonga has recently seen
impressive Church growth, which leads me to believe that a second temple may be
needed to serve the Saints there. The city of Neiafu Vava’u seems to be the
most likely location for a second Tongan temple, since the Saints in that city
currently travel 189 miles to the temple in Nuku’alofa. Although that is within
the current minimum mileage, if that minimum is halved or quartered, then that,
combined with the extensive growth in Tonga, leads me to believe that a Neiafu
Vava’u temple will be announced sooner rather than later.
[40]With two
currently-operating temples in Manila and Cebu, and three others announced for
Urdaneta, Muntinlupa City (which is the second for the Manila area) and Cagayan
de Oro, the Church could opt to wait to announce any other temples for the
Philippines until those 3 are further along. But I do see the imminent prospect
for one additional temple in this nation, for reasons I will explain in the
note below.
[41]Davao is currently
assigned to the Cebu City Temple District, from which it is 335.7 miles. That
distance will not decrease at all until the Cagayan de Oro Philippines Temple,
which was announced last April, is built and dedicated. But even then, the
Saints in Davao will still have a journey of 161.8 miles. If the minimum
distance set by previous Church presidents is halved or quartered, then Davao
will surely be the next city in the Philippines to get a temple. I have had
this city on lists like this for a long time, so I hope a temple will be
announced there sooner rather than later.
[42]The entire South American
continent has experienced massive Church growth. Having previously discussed
Brazil, I will focus my comments about South America on the two other areas of
the Church within this continent. Starting with the South America Northwest
Area, I wanted to observe that there are 6 operating temples there. 1 other (in
Barranquilla Colombia) is set to be dedicated in December of this year. 1 more
is currently under construction in Arequipa Peru (for which a dedication is
anticipated in early 2020). Two others have been announced (the Lima Peru Los
Olivos Temple, which may have a groundbreaking within the next year, if not
sooner, and the Quito Ecuador Temple, which could have a groundbreaking within
the next 2-3 years, though hopefully sooner if all goes well). With the South
America Northwest Area having experienced somewhat rapid growth, I have long
been of the opinion that several prospects were likely possibilities for this
area in the near future, and I expanded the number of those prospective locations
again with the increased comments about President Nelson’s ambitious
temple-building plans. For the reasons mentioned in the notes below, each of
the locations on this list have a strong case in their favor as prospects for
the near future.
[43]Since the dedication of
Bolivia’s first temple in Cochabamba, the Church in Bolivia has seen
significant growth and expansion. That has been especially true of regions that
would be served by temples in Santa Cruz or La Paz. Of the two, although I
favor La Paz,, my research indicates a Santa Cruz temple may be more imminent.
But I fully anticipate temples in both cities within the next 15 years or less,
thus both are on this list for now.
[44]The temple in Caracas was
announced during the October 1995 General Conference, with a groundbreaking
occurring in January 1999, and a dedication for it was held the following year
in August. One year prior to the dedication of the temple in Caracas, President
Hinckley publicly proposed another Venezuelan temple for the city of Maracaibo,
which is 432.5 miles from Caracas. Although Venezuela has political turbulence
at the moment, and although there has been some Church unit consolidation there
in recent years, when we combine the distance factor with the fact that temples
publicly proposed during the administrations of Presidents Hinckley and Monson
have gone on to be announced during the subsequent administrations of
Presidents Monson and Nelson, the case in favor of a temple in Maracaibo is
strong, so that prospect may be more imminent than many (myself included) might
anticipate.
[45]Iquitos has been on my
list of temple prospects for about as long as I have offered my thoughts about
future temple locations. I removed this prospect for a time when a second Lima
Peru Temple was announced, but have since rethought the need for it. Iquitos is
629 miles from Lima Peru, will be 625 miles from the Los Olivos Temple (which
has not yet been built) 498 miles from Trujilllo, and will be even further away
from the Arequipa temple (which is anticipated to be dedicated in early 2020).
As I mentioned in earlier notes, if the previous 200-mile goal that has been
sent by other Church presidents is lowered by a minimum of 50 or 100 miles,
then based on that metric, Iquitos would certainly qualify, and is therefore
the next most likely Peruvian city that could get a temple (in my opinion).
[46]The Barranquilla Colombia
Temple is scheduled for its’ dedication in December of this year. How soon
Colombia might get a third (and fourth) temple may depend on how imminently
such temples might be needed. That said, the two most likely cities for
Colombia’s third temple seem to be Cali or Medellin. Cali is 286.6 miles away
from the temple in Bogota, while Medellin is 260.7 miles away from Bogota, and
neither city will be closer to Barranquilla. The two cities are 260.5 miles
apart, so a temple in either would like serve both cities, at least initially.
Although the Church has been known to wait 3-10 years between announcing a new
temple in a nation that has recently had one dedicated, at the same time, given
President Nelson’s reported plans to expand the number of temples, both cities
may have a temple announced within the next 5-10 years or sooner.
[47]As noted above relating to
the South America Northwest Area, the South America South Area has likewise
seen extensive and significant growth. So again, with President Nelson’s
extensive temple-building plans in mind, I have considered the most imminent
prospects for future temples in this area, which, for the reasons outlined in
the notes below, have a strong case in their favor.
[48]In view of the need to
expand my list of prospects for this area, Ciudad del Este seems to be the most
likely prospect for a second temple in Paraguay, with the only question being
how imminently likely that might be. When the renovation process is complete
for the Asuncion temple, the Saints in Ciudad del Este will have a journey of
201.4 miles to worship there, which is already above the minimum goal other
prophets have set. If that minimum distance is lowered at all, then a temple in
that city may simply be a matter of time.
[49]The one difficult thing
about determining where Chile’s next temple will rise and how soon an
announcement might occur is the fact that the city’s second temple (in Concepcion)
is set to be dedicated in late October of this year. With a few rare
exceptions, generally the Church has waited a few years after the dedication of
a temple in nations outside the US before announcing the next temple in that
nation, although that may change if what has been said about President Nelson’s
temple-building plans are any indication. Valparaiso has been on one of my
various lists for a while now. That city is 71.6 miles away from its’ current
temple in Santiago, and will be further away from the temple in Concepcion. The
main argument behind this temple would be to potentially split the current
Santiago district, and Valparaiso may be the best way to do that.
[50]As I studied future
Chilean temple prospects, Antofagasta emerged as another likely prospect. Right
now, that Saints in that city are 829.8 miles away from their assigned temple
in Santiago, about the same distance from Antofagasta, and even further away
from Concepcion. I can therefore see temples in both Antofagasta and Valparaiso
within the next 5-15 years, with the only question being which might
potentially be more imminent.
[51]Although President Nelson
just announced last April that Argentina’s third temple will be built in Salta,
I have had Neuquen on my list of future prospects for a while now. Neuquen is
709.2 miles from Buenos Aires, 691.4 miles from Cordoba, and even further than
that from Salta. Since all three distances are much further than the 200 mile
goal set by previous Church presidents, whether or not that distance goal is
changed, it seems that a temple in Neuquen may just be a matter of time.
[52]Although the North
American continent (primarily in the United States) has seen somewhat of a
stagnating growth situation, in light of the recent increased mentions of President
Nelson’s ambitious temple-building plans, the likelihood is extremely high that
the US and Canada will be included in whatever the plans are to expand the
number of temples worldwide. The locations listed below represent what I
believe are the most imminent prospects for the US and Canada in the near
future.
[53]Preston Idaho is a
relatively new addition to this list. Although the Church has not yet begun
full-scale construction on the temple in Pocatello (which was announced in
April 2017), since Idaho is part of the Mormon corridor, that opens the
prospect that both temples could be under construction at around the same time.
The main reason I added a temple for Preston this go-round is because it would
split the current Logan Utah Temple district. Right now, the Saints in Preston
travel 26.7 miles to worship at that temple. Although that may not be an
inordinate distance, at the same time, if the Logan temple is as busy as the
reports I have found seem to indicate, splitting the district would make a lot
of sense, and Preston seems to be the most effective location to accomplish
that.
[54]According to reports I
received through the comments on my blog, Elder David A. Bednar publicly
proposed a Missoula Montana Temple while on assignment to a stake conference in
that city. My subsequent research indicates that land has been held in reserve
for such a temple for several years n. ow, and that an official announcement
will occur once the right conditions are met. For that reason, Missoula has
been on my list for a while now, and I could see an official announcement in
the near future.
[55]Although South Dakota only
has 2 stakes and 1 district, and although the districts of the Bismarck North
Dakota and Winter Quarters Nebraska Temples,, which cover South Dakota, may not
be inordinately large, the Saints in Rapid City travel almost 300 miles to
worship at the Bismarck temple, so it seems likely that the Church will opt to
build a temple there sooner rather than later.
[56]Since Wichita Kansas was
on one of my other two lists, I simply moved it up to this one as a more
imminent prospect. The 7 stakes in Kansas currently are split between the
Kansas City Missouri Temple, the Oklahoma City Oklahoma Temple, and the Denver
Colorado Temple, and almost all of those 7 have extensive distances involved.
So if the 200-mile goal set by previous Church presidents is lowered to any
degree, all of the distances may well be considered inordinate. For these
reason, a temple in Wichita seems likely to be announced sooner rather than
later
[57]The three current temples
in Alberta (Calgary, Cardston, and Edmonton) were all built where the Church
has firm support for them. Lethbridge seems to be the next most likely city in
Alberta to get a temple, which could occur sooner rather than later. The Saints
in Lethbridge are currently 131.7 miles from Calgary, 49.2 miles from Cardston,
and 312.4 miles from Edmonton. If President Nelson does wind up cutting the minimum
mileage within which all Church members should be from their nearest temple by
either half or quarter, the distance from Cardston should be sufficient to
warrant a temple in Lethbridge. If I see anything in the near future that leads
me to alter or eliminate this prospect, I will do so.
[58]When I was first
considering the most likely location for Wisconsin’s first temple, I had
prioritized Madison (the nation’s capital) or Milwaukee. But after a lot of
feedback and more research on my part, I determined Green Bay would be a more
preferable location. There are six stakes in Wisconsin, all of which are
assigned to the Chicago Illinois Temple District except one, which is assigned
to the St. Paul Minnesota Temple district. Each of these stakes involves a
journey between 90-200 miles to their assigned temple. So if the minimum
distance set by previous Church presidents is shortened at all, Wisconsin is a
prime candidate for a temple. And a temple in Green Bay would greatly shorten
the trip for most (if not all) of the stakes in Wisconsin.
[59] Although the Church has
previously built temples in sites which have historical significance, and
although Council Bluffs in Iowa is one such location, given that the Saints who
live in that area are less than 15 miles away from the temple in Winter
Quarters Nebraska, a temple in Iowa is more likely to rise in the capital city
of Des Moines. The 8 stakes in Iowa are currently divided between the Winter
Quarters Nebraska and Nauvoo Illinois Temples. Of those 8 stakes, only the
Saints in Council Bluffs are within 15 miles of their assigned temple. All
other established stakes in this state are between 90-180 miles away from their
assigned temple. With all of this in mind, Iowa would qualify for a temple, and
if one rises in Des Moines, it would not surprise me at all if that temple was
named for Mount Pisgah, which is another historically-significant site from
early Church history, and for which the second Des Moines stake is named.
[60]A comment on my blog
mentioned that the Saints in Pueblo and nearby Colorado Springs typically deal with
massive and significant traffic congestion to get to their currently-assigned
temple in Denver, which seems to be a very undue hardship. Since that also
involves a one-way journey of 115.8 miles, I can see why a temple in Pueblo in
the near future may be very likely.
[61]In view of all we have
heard about President Nelson’s plans to expand the number of temples, Maine seems
to be a prime candidate for such a temple. Although there are only two stakes
in that state, the two are between 160 and 240 miles away from their
currently-assigned temple in Boston. Whether or not the minimum mileage is
lowered, Augusta surely qualifies for a temple of its’ own.
[62]Mormon Newsroom announced
in mid-July that in mid-August, President Nelson was planning to visit 3
Canadian cities, Montreal Quebec (which has a temple), Winnipeg Manitoba (where
a temple is currently under construction), and Hamilton Ontario (which does not
currently have a temple in any phase). There are currently 99 congregations in
Ontario, which is a large amount for the one temple in Toronto. The city of Hamilton
is 42.2 miles away from Toronto, and if the Toronto temple is at all busy, a
temple in Hamilton Ontario makes sense.
[63]Vermont is the 5
th
smallest of the 50 states, and has a Church presence that matches its’ size. Members
in Montpelier currently travel 180.4 miles one way to worship at the Boston
Massachusetts Temple. While New Hampshire may have a stronger Church presence
currently than Vermont does, Vermont has a connection to Church history (as the
Prophet Joseph Smith was born in Sharon), so it seems likely the Church would
favor Vermont for a temple. The temple could potentially be built directly in
Sharon (as the Church has a tradition of putting a temple in
historically-significant locations), but my current research on the subject
leads me to conclude that, unless a stake is established in Sharon before this
temple is announced, Montpelier may be a preferable location, as it would
provide such a temple with sufficient support from a nearby stake.
[64]The imminence of a
prospective first temple in New Jersey may be difficult to determine. That
said, two of the five stakes in that state are 41.6 miles away from their
assigned temple. If the previous maximum distance of 200 miles which was set by
other prophets is lowered at all, New Jersey would certainly qualify for a
temple, which means one could be announced in that state sooner rather than
later. The two cities I mentioned above are Morristown and East Brunswick, so
the temple could be built in either location. While I have no reservations
about listing this prospect here, if I see anything that indicates such a
temple may not be as imminent as it seems, I will be sure to remove it.
[65]The merit of the idea for
a temple in Concord New Hampshire relate to the fact that the Saints in that
city are 67.9 miles from their currently assigned temple (in Boston
Massachusetts), so if President Nelson’s plans to expand the number of temples
involves quartering the 200-mile distance within which previous Church
presidents have indicated they want members to be from their nearest temple,
then a temple in Concord may simply be a matter of time.
[66]The Saints residing in Fairbanks
Alaska currently travel 360.3 miles to worship at the temple in Anchorage.
Although the Saints in Juneau do have a longer journey to both Anchorage and
Fairbanks, the latter has emerged from my study as the best prospect for Alaska’s
second temple. That said, I can see a day when Juneau gets one as well, which
may happen sooner than expected, depending on the extent of President Nelson’s
temple-building plans.
[67]Mississippi is another
state that does not yet have a temple in any phase. The Saints in Jackson
currently travel 174.6 miles one way to worship at the Baton Rouge Louisiana
Temple, but with that temple closed for renovation, the trip is much longer to
get to the next nearest temple. That presents a compelling argument for the
idea that a temple in Jackson may simply be a matter of time.
[68]The Saints in Shreveport
currently travel 187.9 miles to their assigned temple in Dallas, so that city
would qualify for a temple of its’ own if the current 200-mile distance goal
set by previous church presidents is halved or quartered. Therefore, a temple
in Shreveport may simply be a matter of time.
[69]With temples operating in
Orlando and Fort Lauderdale, a third temple may be needed sooner rather than
later. Several people have shared their feeling that Tallahassee may be a more
likely location for the third temple in that state, but between my personal
research on the subject and the opinions of others who seem to know more about
Florida than I do, Jacksonville has made my list. That said, I can see a day
within the next 5-10 years or less when both cities will have a temple. The Jacksonville
Saints currently travel 140.7 miles to the temple in Orlando, so if the
200-mile distance is halved or quartered, then this prospect may be a very high
priority in the near future.
[70]The Saints in Knoxville
Tennessee currently travel 180.1 miles to worship at the temple in Nashville.
That may also be an inordinate distance if the minimum mileage is lowered at
all, and if we also take into account the fact that a journey to Nashville may
be arduous, then a temple in Knoxville seems imminent.
[71]A good friend with
connections to Arkansas told me a while ago that the Church has held land in
reserve for a temple in Bentonville for a while now, and that an official
announcement was likely once the right conditions were met. For that reason, I
believe we will see this temple announced sooner rather than later. Some have
opined that Rogers might be a more likely location for the first temple in
Arkansas, but my study confirms that a temple is likely in Bentonville sooner
rather than later. And as observed by someone on my blog, when the first temple
in Arkansas is built, it could potentially be named for the Ozark Mountain
range, which is a major landmark in Arkansas
[72]The Saints in Elko
currently travel 229.6 miles to their assigned temple (Salt Lake). So Elko
already qualifies in terms of the within 200-mile distance. And if that mileage
goal is lowered, that prospect becomes more imminently likely.
[73]The note above applies to
the Saints in Ely as well, as they commute 201.1 miles to their assigned temple
in Cedar City. A temple in Ely would cut the commute substantially. And I fully
believe that temples in both Elko and Ely are possible in the near future,
since the distance between the two is just under 200 miles.
[74]In sharing my thoughts
about potential future temple locations, I learned from someone living in Texas
that Fort Worth would likely be the best prospective city to split the current
Dallas district. In addition, although some have offered their feedback that El
Paso may be a more likely location for that honor, and although I fully believe
both cities will have temples of their own at some future point, I have
prioritized Fort Worth for this list.
[75]The Saints in Las Cruces
currently travel 224.6 miles to the temple in Albuquerque, so a temple there
may just be a matter of time. A temple in that city could also likely serve the
Saints in El Paso Texas, as the two cities are 46.2 miles apart. The journey
between the two cities would be a fairly easy distance if for any reason the El
Paso Saints are unable to get to their currently-assigned temple in Ciudad
Juarez Mexico.
[76]Although Elder Larry Y.
Wilson, the Executive Director of the Church’s Temple Department, stated at
last year’s dedication of the Tucson Arizona Temple that Arizona was, for the
moment, well-stocked with temples. That said, my study indicates that the next Arizona
temple will be built in Flagstaff. Right now, the Saints in that city currently
travel 119 miles to worship at the Snowflake Arizona Temple. If the 200-mile
distance is decreased by President Nelson (either by halving or quartering it),
then Snowflake would be a prime candidate for a temple, and that may even help
to split some of the other temple districts in Arizona as well.
[77]Bakersfield California is
roughly halfway between Fresno (from which it is 109.1 miles away) and Los
Angeles (from which it is 113.3 miles away). Although there have been some
congregational consolidations in California in recent years, the distances
involved may be sufficient to warrant a temple in Bakersfield in the
not-too-distant future.
[78]In 2005, President Gordon
B. Hinckley noted that land was being held in reserve for a temple in the
Southwestern Salt Lake Valley, which would have an official announcement when
that became necessary. Subsequent study on my part in late 2017 and early 2018
pointed me to the conclusion that the land in question was in Bluffdale, but
that it has since been annexed into the city of Herriman, although it has been
the subject of more than a few border disputes. I am confident enough to list
it here, and since President Monson announced temples publicly proposed during
President Hinckley’s tenure, I feel that President Nelson may likely do the
same. Thus, a temple there may just be a matter of time.
[79]A temple in Heber City
(the prospect of which has been suggested a few times) would help provide a
closer option for Saints in the Heber Valley, and it would likely split the
district of the Provo Utah Temple, which, by all reports, is still one of the
busiest in the Church.
[80]Tooele has also been
mentioned repeatedly as a potential prospective city for a temple. While the
Saints in Tooele do not have to drive an inordinate distance to reach their
assigned temple in Salt Lake City, I feel a temple there may simply be a matter
of time. And since a temple in Herriman would still create a drive (along a
U-shape) for those Saints, it seems safe to assume that Tooele could (and
likely will) get a temple soon.
A temple in Hever City, Maya take Park City from the Salt Lake Temple in addition to the Heber Valley stakes from Provo. A temple in Toole seems very likely. A majority of tur new stakes in the Salt Lake Temple District thay have beenborganized in the last couple decades have been in the Toole area.
ReplyDeleteA temple in Cache Valley is promising and
DeleteI agree that a temple may be announced in the next few years. I think somewhere either in Smithfield or Preston. I made guesses for the middle of a potential temple district but the church seems to be announcing the further city from nearest temple than my guess for other Utah temples. I thought one would be on Lehi but Saratoga Springs got one. My other prediction was for Spanish Fork, but Payson got one. Therefore as you suggest Preston may be more likely than my Smithfield guess.
ReplyDeleteThanks, as always, for taking time to comment, Chris! I believe I recall you mentioning earlier that a temple in Heber City would take in the Heber Valley as well as the Park City Stakes, as the two cities are just 16.9 miles apart.
ReplyDeleteAnd it was also based on your excellent suggestion of a temple in either Preston Idaho or Smithfield Utah to split the current Logan Utah Temple District that I was able to do some additional research on such a prospect. While I could potentially foresee a day when both Preston and Smithfield both have a temple, the factors I have studied leads me to believe that Preston will be first.
It is certainly interesting to think about future temple prospects. It is likewise very interesting to me that we are heading towards mid-August and we have not yet seen temple groundbreakings announced or held this year. I am sure there is a reason that is the case, and I am certainly hoping that we may hear any day now an announcement of at least a few groundbreakings which could be held before the end of this year. If President Nelson is planning to rapidly expand the number of temples in a few short years, there is no doubt in my mind that he will also do everything in his power to clear the current backlog of 19 announced temples which have not had a groundbreaking. It will be interesting for sure to see how all of this unfolds. Thanks, Chris, for taking time to comment.
Unfortunately, after reading an article on Fox news about a Hindu building in China possibly being torn down because the government wants to make sure people are more loyal to them than to a religion, I don't see any temple being planned in China any time soon.
ReplyDeleteWith Pres Nelson's connections and status in China anything is possible but I am not adding it to my lists yet.
I see other Asia others increasing in temple numbers first, such as those you have listed. I would love to see Singapore get a temple to help that help the Southern Asian area.
I wonder if promoting the 12th Article of Faith more may help improve the chances for a future temple in Mainland China. Also the church works hard to maintain a good relationship with the government. I heard that in some countries the government requires access to any building. I have also thought of an idea that may work for some countries with restrictions. Have an openhouse for government leaders every year following the annual cleaning with an informal rededication.
ReplyDeleteThe Hindu, and a mosque, building were torn down for architectural reasons as the BBC said the mosque had 'domes and minarets' Anything we would ever do would reflect local custom and culture,as evidenced by the designs incorporated in the SapporoTemple, but that is a long way off and even eventual chapels will reflect local building practices.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the additional thoughts, Kenny, Chris, and James Anderson. I agree that the expansion of the Church in mainland China is a difficult case. My mom's brother knows a family in China, and I have mentioned before how the two children in that family were not taught the gospel until they came here, at which point they had the missionary discussions and were baptized. Both have since served missions. But as I understand it, their parents could not even share those beliefs with their children.
ReplyDeleteAnd there may be other factors involved in all of this as well. Although President Nelson has been designated an "old friend of China", and although he was responsible for saving the life of a world-renowned Chinese opera star, the Church does practice the principle of obeying, honoring and sustaining the law.
What that means to me is that, until the government is more inclined to understand how much the Church and its' doctrines and practices would benefit their nation, or unless the Lord provides a way to open the necessary doors, mainland China may not open to the Church as soon as many would hope or expect.
I have previously referenced here my experience with having to debunk rumors which some members of my extended family believed about missionaries being sent to open China for a three=year period. The expansion of the Church into mainland China may be a long way off. At the same time, we have seen hearts softened and doors opened by the Lord and his servants when the time has been right, with Germany being a classic example.
So while such a prospect may be a long way off, at the same time, there is no doubt in my mind that the Lord brought President Nelson to the Church presidency for very specific reasons, one of which may be that he, as an old friend of China, can have success opening that door that has long been closed to the Church and its' membership. Miracles happen all the time, which has been especially true in the work of the Lord. Thanks again to all of you for taking time to comment. I appreciate hearing your insights.
Kenny, I wholeheartedly agree with you about Singapore. For those who have seen the stake center; or had the privilege of being in it as I have, know it can easily be converted to a temple similar to Hong Kong and Manhattan. It even looks like a Temple.
ReplyDeleteI know the church is very responsible in how it gets involved in any particular country. Those kids could have been taught the gospel because you can teach your own family but it is not allowed to teach friends. Before we ever have a temple in mainland China let's wait for chapels and open statistics to be allowed.
ReplyDeleteAll of Southern Asian would benefit from a temple in or near Singapore. I didn't know about the stake center, that makes the possibility of a mixed temple / chapel even more likely than ever or if the church owns any other kind of admin building like in Thailand.
I know membership directly in Macao is not very large, but I wonder if a temple there could be justified and also provide a temple close to mainland China just like Hong Kong? I believe the laws there are more like Hong Kong where it is China but still has much more liberty and freedom.
ReplyDeleteMacao is not far from Hong Kong less than 40 miles. Unless there is significant growth I don't anticipate a tempke there soon. But there have been surprised before.
ReplyDeleteI really need to check my spelling before I submit
DeleteYou're right. I forgot how close Macau and Hong Kong are. Basicly just across the small bay.
ReplyDeleteSingapore is an interesting case to study. There may certainly be an opportunity to build a temple there, and I have also heard (but have not yet personally confirmed) that the Church is building the latest meetinghouses in such a way that each could be converted into a temple, should the need arise. Scott, that is awesome that a stake center exists there which could be converted into a temple.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is likewise true that President Hinckley publicly proposed a temple there around 20 years or so ago. So the question arises: Would the Church build a temple there in the near future? And that gets a little tricky to answer. It is true that with the temples in Russia and India, those were announced well in advance of when many (myself included) had projected.
If the comments shared here and elsewhere about President Nelson's ambitious temple plans are any indication, then it could very well turn out that no location is off the table in terms of its' future likelihood for a temple. It is also true that Presidents Monson and Nelson have announced temples which were publicly proposed during the administrations of Presidents Hinckley and Monson, so a temple in Singapore is a definite possibility.
The question for me was how imminent that prospect might be. With the Bangkok Thailand Temple planned to be on the larger side, it may be difficult to know how soon other neighboring nations might get a temple. And that is primarily because the extent of President Nelson's plans to expand the number of temples in the near future is not yet known. All we do know is that he plans to do something to expand that number further than President Hinckley did.
That said, I ran the mileage metric particularly on Singapore. Right now, Saints in that area travel 1,609 miles to the temple in Hong Kong. Once the Bangkok Thailand Temple is built and dedicated, that distance shrinks to 1,137.1 miles, which is still well above the mileage goal set by previous Church presidents. If President Nelson's plans involve shrinking that distance, then Singapore would qualify.
That brings up an interesting question: should I substitute Cambodia for Singapore, or should I simply add Singapore to the list? I would appreciate feedback on that. Kenny, interesting you should mention Macau. That was one prospect I looked at. Right now, the Saints in Macau (which is in its' infancy in terms of Church history, presence, and the number of Church units). But it is also true that Church members in Macau have to make a trek of 38.6 miles, which would not be an undue hardship if travel over land was an available option, but may be more of a challenge since it involves an overseas journey. I will have to do more study on that prospect for sure.
Lots to consider in terms of temple prospects in the near future, and I thank you all again for your ongoing input. If I have missed anything else in Asia, or any other area of the Church, for that matter, please let me know about that as well. Thanks again.
Macau and Honk Kong have a great relationship. They are each others first and second largest destinations for both trade and tourism. A ferry trip takes about 55 minutes. Two ferry companies. TurboJet Service three up to 3 times per dayand Cotai Waterjet leaves up to 35 times per day. A bridg-tunnel system is set to open sometime this year.
DeleteInteresting. So the question is, would a ferry trip of around 55 minutes be considered a hardship? My gut feeling on that is that it is not, at least not for now. So for the moment, Macau may be more of a long-shot for a temple. But I will keep the prospect on the back-burner for now and keep looking for anything in the coming years that would suggest it is a more imminently likely prospect. Thanks again, Chris!
DeleteChina has just built and apparently opened the world's longest bridge carrying a six-lane highway, should service both Macau and Hong Kong
DeleteInteresting. If that is the case, that would certainly make it easier for the Saints in Macau to get to Hong Kong. With that in mind, I am definitely putting Macau on my list of locations that will likely only get a temple in the longer-term. Thanks, James Anderson, for that additional insight.
DeleteI wonder how much the charge for the ferry is. I also dont know gas prices over there or if there is a toll for the new tires bridge-tunnel highway. But I think Macau is possapos in the long term. I think the next places to get temples in the current Hong Kong Temple district would be in Indonesia, Mongolia, and Cambodia. More for distance. When I looked at the Hong Kong temple schedule on LDS.org, it had an average weekday schedule of 6 sessions and 5 on Saturdays.
DeleteThanks for this additional comment, Chris! The question of the imminent likelihood whereby any location anywhere might get a temple is a hard one to pin down to be sure. I know that I had both Russia and India on my list for the more distant future, but was gratified to learn that both prospects were more imminent than I had originally believed.
DeleteWhat is also unknown is how growth (or the lack of it) might affect the imminence of the locations I mentioned above, or any other locations, for that matter. And with only very preliminary information available about the extent of President Nelson's temple-building program, while that may mean no potential location can be overlooked, at the same time, the Church may still opt to wait on others. It will be interesting to see all of that unfold.
That said, particularly in relation to the Asia Area of the Church, with the Bangkok Thailand Temple planned to be on the larger side (since construction is anticipated to take 3-4 years), it will be interesting to see how soon other temples are announced in the neighboring nations you mentioned.
Mongolia and Cambodia have both made my list for now, for the reasons I explained in the notes above. Indonesia is another interesting case. Right now, the Saints in that nation travel 2,033 miles to get to Hong Kong. Once the Bangkok Thailand Temple is dedicated, that distance will be cut to 1,919.3 miles. Quite frankly, my biggest reservation about including it as a prospect in the near future is the fact that there may not be a sufficient Church presence in that nation to support it. That said, Jakarta is on my list for the near future, and will be moved to an official one for a future conference if there is a stronger case for it. Thanks again for taking time to comment, Chris!
Just checked a couple of things, and found that Brampton, a suburb of Toronto, is just north of Mississauga, itself a sizeable city, but both are west of Toronto. Although the suburban area of Toronto technically may include Hamilton, the temple in Brampton appears to be a similar distance from Toronto as Hamilton. If anything, and they want to build a second Toronto-region temple, would it make sense to put one more east, leaving most of Toronto east of Pearson International, in a district with one more north and east?
DeleteThat way, Brampton would service Mississauga, Hamilton, St. Catherines, etc. ON-401 is the continent's busiest freeway, so those there in Toronto east of Pearson would want something closer. The ON-407 freeway is an expensive toll road and is often clogged with traffic anyway, so having the east metro go to an eastern/northrn suburban temple would be helpful.
Hello again, James Anderson! I had not realized that the Toronto temple was one that was named for one city but built in another. That may change things. That said, the strongest reason I had for suggesting a temple in Hamilton is that President Nelson's September visit to Canada involves 3 cities, 2 of which have a temple, and 1 of which (Hamilton) does not.
DeleteBased on how President Nelson announced he would make a stop on his Global Ministry Tour to Bengaluru India, which did not have a temple in any phase at the time of that announcement, and based on the fact that the Lord instructed him the night before General Conference to announce a temple in that city, I concluded that a temple in Hamilton was a possibility for the near future primarily because the other Canadian cities he has visited or for which he has announced plans to visit, only Hamilton Ontario does not have a temple.
THat said, would other cities be a better way to split the current Toronto Ontario Temple District? Perhaps. But as I specifically did the research on Canadian temple prospects for the near future, aside from Lethbridge Alberta (which, for the reasons I outlined above, seems to be a solid choice), no particular Canadian prospects jumped out at me. I likely would not even have listed a prospective temple for Hamilton Ontario if it were not for the fact that President Nelson is planning to visit it.
And admittedly, I spent most of my time focusing the research of the above prospect on the most likely candidates within the US and in other areas where the Church is well established that I did not have much of an opportunity to study Canadian prospects more in-depth. That said, I will be elated for any temple prospects, whether they are on my list or not. For now, though, with confining my selections to the most imminent prospects, and without knowing the extent to which President Nelson's plans to expand the number of temples might go, I opted to list just the two locations, in Lethbridge Alberta and Hamilton Ontario. But I will certainly keep your comments in mind relating to the best way to split the Toronto temple district, and will do more research on it if we do not see a temple announced for Hamilton Ontario during the next General Conference. Thanks, James Anderson, for taking time to comment.
Sorry, Chris! I somehow didn't see your most recent comments here before I posted my comment above. No problem on the spelling. For a while during the time I worked with the extraction program of the Church (a precursor to the indexing program which is currently in use), we had records from the Philippines. And I always had the hardest time remembering that it had two "p"s together rather than two "l"s. I had to repeatedly re-edit some of the records I was working on due to that mix-up. Just an additional comment on Macau: would the short mileage constitute an undue hardship if, as also observed above, Macau is just across the bay from Hong Kong? That may depend, as I also noted above, on the extent to which President Nelson's new plan to expand the number of temples goes. If those plans involve quartering the minimum distance from any member to their assigned temple (which would take it down from 200 miles to 50), then any rigor of travel may play into the consideration of a temple in Macau or anywhere else where 50 miles might constitute an undue hardship. What I might do for now is keep Macau on one of my other two lists and wait to see if the situation of the Church in that nation improves. Thanks, Chris, for your comments, and sorry I managed to somehow overlook them earlier.
ReplyDeleteSo, I was re-looking at Asian countries without a temple and the top five and their 2017 membership numbers are:
ReplyDeleteCambodia 14,256
Mongolia 11,641
Malaysia 10,224
Indonesia 7,399
Singapore 3,367
The last three all being close to each other. It is making me rethink Singapore for now as perhaps a temple in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia or Jakarta, Indonesia might be first to serve the region and then others added later.
The biggest pulls for Singapore over the other two are that Singapore is in middle of all three countries and Pres Hinkley's January 2000 prophesy.
Just a couple of thoughts about that area.
Hi, Kenny! Thanks for this additional comment. Membership numbers may indeed play into how soon each of these nations get a temple. That said, as I have noted before, if the Church does not feel there is sufficient enough support for a temple (in order to staff it and keep it busy enough), that may be one factor which detracts from the likelihood of such areas getting a temple.
ReplyDeleteThat said, since you brought up membership numbers, let's look at the number of congregations in each location:
Malaysia: 32
Cambodia: 29
Mongolia: 25
Indonesia: 24
Singapore: 11
When we combine the congregational data with the membership data, I feel somewhat secure in my choices above of Mongolia and Cambodia. That said, I am going to be keeping a close eye on anything that would indicate that temples in Malaysia, Indonesia and Signapore may be more imminent prospects. For now, I may keep both on the back-burner.
And of course, as more information is provided about the extent of President Nelson's temple-building plans, we may see all sorts of unexpected locations have a temple announced. Until that time, however, I have had to weigh the relevant factors I can find against anything that would potentially delay temples in such locations, which can be a laborious process.
And again, because it would be next to impossible for me to consider every candidate that ever could get a temple, I have focused this list on what I have felt are the most imminent prospects. For the Asia Area, that means Mongolia for the mileage and Cambodia for the Church presence top the list.
It will be interesting to see what unfolds, and whether or not future temples that are announced are on the lists I provide, I will welcome the announcement of each new temple most warmly. Thanks for the additional insights into these nations, Kenny! I always appreciate hearing from you.
Hello again, everyone! Just a couple of reminders: I continue to welcome comments on these locations until the last week of September. Also, I hope to continue sharing my thoughts on that ongoing conversation. If I see a good reason to drop or change certain locations on this list, I will do so. Likewise, if I feel particularly strongly about the reasoning behind other locations on this list, I hope that that does not detract from or discourage any of you from commenting further.
ReplyDeleteI would particularly be interested to hear thoughts about the areas of the Church in Africa, and on whether or not the currently-stagnated growth which has been reported in some areas of Europe and the United States might potentially hamper the likelihood of any of the prospects I listed above for those areas.
And it will likewise be intriguing to learn in coming days whether or not President Nelson's plans to expand the number of temples might lead to more than one temple being under construction simultaneously in any area of the Church outside of the "Mormon Corridor", South America, and Africa.
Of course, once we know more about the extent of the temple-building plans, a major expansion of potential locations for the near-future will likely be needed. I appreciate the way that all of you have contributed to the discussion on this subject, and hope that such discussion will continue for the foreseeable future.
I had another question for the ongoing discussion. First, a little background on it (which may go without saying): I had meant to confine the list above to the prospective locations which were most likely to have a temple announced next month. I know that, based on the many comments in earlier posts that mention President Nelson's enthusiasm for temples and that his legacy as a temple-building prophet will outpace and overshadow President Hinckley's, I expanded that list.
ReplyDeleteSo the question I have is this: How ambitious should this list be, based on how little we know about the extent of those plans? I could see potentially confining this list to perhaps the 3 most imminently-likely locations in each of these areas in the near future.
But here's where I keep going back-and-forth on this issue: If we are in for a windfall of new temple announcements, then it would not be wise to slim down the list of potential possibilities. At the same time, we have 19 announced temples which are in various stages of progress towards a groundbreaking, 1 of which was announced in 2010, 2 in 2015, 4 in 2016, 5 in 2017, and 7 in 2018. So unless there is a mass announcement of several groundbreakings which will take place in the final 3.5 months of this year, 19 temples may constitute a major backlog, so I could see the First Presidency opting to wait until next April to announce other temples in order to allow 7.5 months to hopefully clear the backlog.
So what it comes down to is a multi-part question of how often temples might be announced, how many might be announced each time there is an announcement, how extensive the list of temples I include in each set of General Conference predictions should be, and how the process of advancing temples from announcement to construction to dedication might be expedited. Just a few additional things to consider. Thanks again, everyone!