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Wednesday, July 26, 2017
Unit Gains and Losses Signal Somewhat Significant LDS Congregational Growth
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I wonder how many of the net loss of districts was due to upgrading to stakes and not really a loss at all. I have seen some cases where two nearby districts combined to prepare to be a stake as well. Would any of these be a case like that?
ReplyDeleteMany of them are, Chris, as reported by Matt. I just report the numbers, since that's my thing/ Analyzing such developments and their significance in Church history is Matt's role, and he does that very well. But there have also been some districts that have been discontinued as well. In either case, the developments are no less significant, and if these numbers are any indication, then the end-of-year numbers are shaping up well. Thanks, as always, for the comment, Chris!
DeleteJames, quick note. If you are getting your info for the number of wards and branches from ldschurchtemples or from CDOL, be aware that that number does not include about 100 units that are not publicly listed because they are classified as "sensitive" due to the nature of certain political and geographic areas. (At least that's what I understood from one of Matt's comments.) So, the current number of ward and branches that is listed in CDOL (which is where ldschurchtemples get his info) is always about 100 less than the actual number. However, the final year-end numbers that are reported in General Conference DO include these units. So, there has actually been a net increase of about 130 wards/branches so far this year; i.e. 30304 at the end of 2016, and 30434 currently (30334 of which are publicly listed, and about 100 that are not listed).
ReplyDeleteJason, thanks for visiting and commenting. I do get my info from LDS Church Temples primarily. I never have had and probably never will have access to the CDOL. I understand fully how such "sensitive" units may not be listed in the available resources. My observations in this post are mainly a general comment on what I have access to, and in assembling my estimates for the year-end statistics that the Church presents each April, I do try to allow for a margin of error, which is different each year based on the information I have once I assemble those. And whether I have been proven wrong or right in such estimates and assertions, in my mind, that does not minimize or diminish the wonderful growth that is happening worldwide. I appreciate the information and will take that into account when I assemble my year-end estimates for those statistics. Thanks for letting me know, Jason, and for commenting today. I appreciate it, hope you are well, and will welcome your ongoing comments whenever you feel you want to do so. Thanks again.
DeleteL. Chris Jones, I believe you are correct. Matt has listed that only 6 districts have actually been discontinued so far this year. I believe that means that of the net 14 loss in districts, 8 of them became stakes and 6 were discontinued or merged into other districts/stakes.
ReplyDeleteJason, though this comment was not directed to me, I thank you for confirming what I subsequently said to Chris in response to his comment above. And that would be just about right, if I have tracked this correctly. But again, keeping all of that straight is Matt's specialty, not mine, and I won't be trying to infringe on his ability to do so. Thanks for this comment as well.
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